Cloud9 sign Kongdoo Panthera, will compete as Cloud9 KongDoo in APEX

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Holy fuck, kdp in London? Does this mean they will use the entire roster for owl? Or are they gonna attempt to mix and match like immortals?

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i dont think mixing roster that so far comunicated in korean with non korean players is a goo idea (you force majority of korean players to speak english or few english speaking westerners to learn korean?)

if they will make this roster their owl roster i expect them to keep it as it is

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Birdring-Rascal-Surefour-Nevix-Mike Adams-Kyb
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Bdosin-Xepher-Space
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Void-Fissure-Daily-Mowzassa-Gods
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Wakawaka-Greyy-Roolf-Neptuno-Adam
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Bishop-Spazzo-LegitRc
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And Mendo as a streamer and Alicus as a General Manager
C9 has 24 people with their organization for Overwatch wtf.

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c9 is basicly the whore of this game, i guess

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Wouldn't shock me if 2 - 3 more Korean teams get an OWL spot

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im liking the colors on the logo tho

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AND THEY SAID THERE WASN'T GONNA BE A WESTERN TEAM IN APEX!

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c9's logo just transformed into the Mangekyo Sharingan

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c9 with the alicus strats PogChamp

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I guess Alicus has finally given up on building his own roster, one thing to note is the coach, its bishup :D

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The logo is just amazing

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birding

I didn't know bird was a verb

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I originally said I'd find it difficult to support either a full NA or KR team for the EU spot, but any team with Birdring and Rascal in it gives me no choice. Buzzing.

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Alicus & Bishop with the genius moves.

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the long con.

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Seeing Bishop back in action really makes me happy. For a short while he made C9 NA the most unpredictable team in the west.

Hope he crushes it with his old Org and brings the pain to OWL. My only question would be what they plan to do with either squads afterwards, since I'm assuming there's going to be some measure of internationality in this team instead of just 6 Koreans.

Edit: Spelling.

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Yea the talent between the two teams is insane, very intriguing as to what they will do with an OWL roster and all these players.

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I agreee with you....but dont say it to reddit or they will kill you(as usually they have find in one person the general problem of the whole team lol....bunch of idiots ahahahhahahah)

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well to be fair he did some really weird last minute roleswaps in a few games that didnt work at all, surefour has used it as excuus on stream for losing against kungarna for example.

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ye,can someone provide me a wallpaper with the new logo please

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I was secretly hoping they'd pickup the U.K. national team, but this squad is pretty sick.

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I feel bad for the london area fans, first its a NA team instead of fnatic which is based in london, but atleast they had kyb and mikeya...now its all koreans

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Really, C9? With so many unsigned talents in EU, I thought Team London would be the best place to pool all those EU talents. I wonder what C9 is going to do with all of the players in the team. There were speculations that C9 is going to run two full roasters, but I don't think that would be really necessary when you have KDP as your roaster. Also, I don't think mixing up the roasters is a good idea since KDP has strength in all of the roles. Greyy might be better than Bdosin imo, but I still think KDP will be stronger as a team by staying with full Korean roaster. Are they just holding onto all of the players so other teams won't be able to sign these talented players? I hope not.

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Maybe they're holding on to the EU roster for smaller tournies to ready them for OWL S2 ?
Or, they're getting at a cheaper price today to sell them at a way higher one at S2, they have a couple of really talented players on that squad, wouldn't surprise me.

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Hmm... odd to think about, what if C9 bought Sinnatra and outbid NRG, would they just stick him as the only NA player onto a full Korean roster? Would they just keep him as a Sub? Would they merge they're 3 teams and make a super roster? Or would they have made a full NA/EU roster with a few Koreans, and not have merged with KP? Weird stuff man.

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C9 NA,
C9 EU,
and finally,
C9 KR.

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https://twitter.com/mowzassa/status/910908723190730752
https://twitter.com/neptuNoOW/status/910911361764511746

FeelsBadMan.

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I figured this will happen eventually as I could not see how they would fit the existing roaster with KDP. I guess they have been trying hard to come up with a strong roaster by pooling great EU/NA talents but were not impressed with the results they have been seeing on the contenders. And when the opportunity came to sign the KDP, they probably felt like that was easier and sure way of having a very strong roaster.
I think releasing the pre-existing players is better for them than holding onto them as I'm sure most of them will be picked up by other OWL teams (neptuNo, Greyy, and mowzassa at the very least, and probably Nevix, MickeyA, and SPACE as well). I am sure the players feel really bad having to look for other teams when they thought they were already in an OWL team though.

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I don't get why bishop is coach. He is such an unbelievably bad coach

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How so? I felt like C9 was a nice wild card for a while, though I think their weakness came from some players just not being as strong in the roles they played. I think he did as well as he could with what he had to work with but it's hard to tell since they only played in three tournaments.

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this game is so commercialized its unreal
the more money u have the more leagues u can play in
what a joke i rather have crt monitors and 500€ prize pool tournaments back

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I think you misunderstand how businesses work and what it takes for your game, and by extension it's ecosystem, to thrive.

Also, just want to add that ofc this game is heavily commercialized'it's has been and is still geared towards mass accessibility. This isn't some purest game only aimed at the most hardcore of players, never has been.

What you just said make no sense for any game right now so I'm really puzzled as to what the point you're trying to make actually is.

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well ive been around esport way to long to understand this
back then there was still passion in it now its all money driven
be it football,basketball,icehockey,esport its just all turning to shit cuz some big investors think they are god

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Pretty sure the world as a whole is money driven, unless you think having to hold down several jobs on top of being a sports or eSports athlete is a healthy thing.

Your argument of "it didn't used to be like this" makes as much sense as Trump MAGA rhetoric to me but to each their own I guess. Being around for a long time is meaningless if you can't understand current dynamics and how they change over time.

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I dont see how bringing tons of money in to make the best teams in the world and put them on the biggest stage in the world is a bad thing?

The best eSports tourneys are the major ones with all the best teams, always have been. And everything in this world is money driven anyone who tells you different is lying. No one is going to play esports and put on tournaments to lose money.

500$ prize pools and shit prizes is why teams have to have actual paying jobs on top of esports.

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London suddenly the biggest threat to Seoul in OWL! PogChamp

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blizzard is a money horny company, its known for a long time already
they rather let ppl buy a spot instead of having a qualifier for a big league like this
i dont even wanna know how much profit they make of such a league in the end

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Lmao what's wrong with that ? If you think Blizzard makes games just to make people happy, or Nestlé makes food to provide food for them, then I don't know what to say my doggie.

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The level of ridiculousness in this comment is palpable. Of course Blizzard aims to make money that's the main goal of any "for profit" company. By the way, the tournament rules were laid out from the get go about the status of Contender spots, we also don't know what was going on behind the scenes and if Blizz had any involvement in the sale of those spots. Hell, we don't even know if they got a piece of the sale or not. But looking at the results of the teams that got in there's just nothing to complain about.

Neither of you were able to formulate a coherent argument here, if all you're complaining about is companies wanting to make money. Hopefully the companies you guys work for also want to make money so they can pay you.

Edit: Formatting

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That's not a problem from blizzard, that's humanity in general nowadays.
everyone wants to make profit even though it doesn't mean shit.

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Jack made a thread on Reddit explaining what's next for the NA/EU guys.

Thread in question:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/71nbux/whats_next_for_cloud9_na_and_eu_players/