No European on team London and no North American on team Florida :thonking:

Dreamspark [#1]

No European on team London and no North American on team Florida :thonking:

When the Florida team has a stronger link to London than the London team :thonking:

LaurenceR [#2]

When the Florida team has a stronger link to London than the London team :thonking:

When this happens a ton of professional sports but yet this is a major issue for OWL for no apparent reason :thonking:

Ok yes this is rude but I see no reason why everyone hates the fact that there are not local players on teams.

LordOfHorns [#3]

When this happens a ton of professional sports but yet this is a major issue for OWL for no apparent reason :thonking:

Ok yes this is rude but I see no reason why everyone hates the fact that there are not local players on teams.

I know I don't speak for everyone, but that is an issue for me with professional sports. I've only ever supported my national team and a small local team.

In principle it's not an issue, but in reality there's no way I can connect to an NA org running a full team of Koreans with all games played in LA, that apparently represents London. I actually like C9 as a brand, but the only actual connection I've seen to the UK is that video with Stylosa.

I'm still waiting for Logix to be impactful on LAN.

LordOfHorns [#3]

When this happens a ton of professional sports but yet this is a major issue for OWL for no apparent reason :thonking:

Ok yes this is rude but I see no reason why everyone hates the fact that there are not local players on teams.

Give me an example of a professional sport where this happens.

foxes [#5]

I'm still waiting for Logix to be impactful on LAN.

How many LANS has he been to? I think people forget that OW hasn't had as many LANS as people think they had and it's a bit hard to compare his performance in the WC playing for a poor Belgium team don't you think?

robokun87 [#7]

How many LANS has he been to? I think people forget that OW hasn't had as many LANS as people think they had and it's a bit hard to compare his performance in the WC playing for a poor Belgium team don't you think?

I'd say he has been to a lot of LANs compared to the majority of OW players. Dreamhack Winter, TakeOver 2, WC, Contenders and now OWL Preseason.

Kaeru [#8]

I'd say he has been to a lot of LANs compared to the majority of OW players. Dreamhack Winter, TakeOver 2, WC, Contenders and now OWL Preseason.

So we judge him really on Contenders where his team finished 2nd and TO2 that had the best European teams in attendance where he finished 4th and the WC playing for Belgium who are in all honestly shit. I can't remember the stats but pretty sure he didn't flop as hard as people like to claim at Contenders and TO2.

People just have massive expectations for players like Logix and unless they destroy everything then they suck on LAN.

robokun87 [#6]

Give me an example of a professional sport where this happens.

Not to this level but football clubs (soccer)

Fontuctus [#10]

Not to this level but football clubs (soccer)

Can't even use football as an example here, you never find an English team with 24 Spanish players, them having 10 different nationalities is not even remotely close to what they have done here, you won't find an NFL team consisting of an entire nationality that isn't American do you.

It's even more ridiculous that it's a British team for an American based organization fielding two Korean lineups, nobody should compare this to any sport because nothing like this has ever happened or ever will.

robokun87 [#11]

Can't even use football as an example here, you never find an English team with 24 Spanish players, them having 10 different nationalities is not even remotely close to what they have done here, you won't find an NFL team consisting of an entire nationality that isn't American do you.

It's even more ridiculous that it's a British team for an American based organization fielding two Korean lineups, nobody should compare this to any sport because nothing like this has ever happened or ever will.

you arguably can look at how the FA had to introduce that mandatory number of British players per team in the primer league to ensure the growth of home talent.... they wouldnt do that if there was no issue would they. (also i did say NOT TO THIS LEVEL)

Fontuctus [#12]

you arguably can look at how the FA had to introduce that mandatory number of British players per team in the primer league to ensure the growth of home talent.... they wouldnt do that if there was no issue would they. (also i did say NOT TO THIS LEVEL)

Ok, would the organization rather have a team of EU and mainly English players who have proven themselves to be decent but not tier 1, or get two teams of established winners who have taken down the best teams in the world in Korea

I mean at the end of the day it’s about winning, not local heroes

robokun87 [#9]

So we judge him really on Contenders where his team finished 2nd and TO2 that had the best European teams in attendance where he finished 4th and the WC playing for Belgium who are in all honestly shit. I can't remember the stats but pretty sure he didn't flop as hard as people like to claim at Contenders and TO2.

People just have massive expectations for players like Logix and unless they destroy everything then they suck on LAN.

I agree I think there are a lot of newer players who need to get acclimated to LAN, and there are 40 matches this season to do so. Give it time and players like Danteh and Logix will eventually hit their stride and it will be easier to judge their performance.

robokun87 [#9]

So we judge him really on Contenders where his team finished 2nd and TO2 that had the best European teams in attendance where he finished 4th and the WC playing for Belgium who are in all honestly shit. I can't remember the stats but pretty sure he didn't flop as hard as people like to claim at Contenders and TO2.

People just have massive expectations for players like Logix and unless they destroy everything then they suck on LAN.

Most people here just heared one of the analists say thats Logix has choked on every lan so far so people assume it's true. You could clearly see that Misfits/Mayhem clearly have/had bigger issues than individuals not performing as well as they should. Also, he played very well at the nations cup considering Belgium was bad compared to the teams they've played against where he got shut down pretty hard.

'Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see.'

LordOfHorns [#13]

Ok, would the organization rather have a team of EU and mainly English players who have proven themselves to be decent but not tier 1, or get two teams of established winners who have taken down the best teams in the world in Korea

I mean at the end of the day it’s about winning, not local heroes

Picture this for a second:

The Seoul spot is full of Americans meaning all the Korean fans have to support Americans for the home games.

The Shanghai spot is full of Koreans meaning all the Chinese fans have to support Koreans for the home games.

Does that not sound fucking ridiculous to you?

Whatever way you look at it this is a bad move, forge that is very vaguely happens in "real sports" because it never has to this scale, this is about common sense and expecting British people to support a full Korean line up lacks any common sense.

4-0verwatch inbound. London have a better player in every position also I don't mind London having an all Korean roster as it's more fun to watch than an eu team getting rolled every week

why this game starts at 11PM CET, cuz its a full EU battle? Kappa

robokun87 [#16]

Picture this for a second:

The Seoul spot is full of Americans meaning all the Korean fans have to support Americans for the home games.

The Shanghai spot is full of Koreans meaning all the Chinese fans have to support Koreans for the home games.

Does that not sound fucking ridiculous to you?

Whatever way you look at it this is a bad move, forge that is very vaguely happens in "real sports" because it never has to this scale, this is about common sense and expecting British people to support a full Korean line up lacks any common sense.

Why should it matter that someone’s Korean
This isn’t the World Cup
It’s organizations
Who loosely represent different cities

robokun87 [#9]

So we judge him really on Contenders where his team finished 2nd and TO2 that had the best European teams in attendance where he finished 4th and the WC playing for Belgium who are in all honestly shit. I can't remember the stats but pretty sure he didn't flop as hard as people like to claim at Contenders and TO2.

People just have massive expectations for players like Logix and unless they destroy everything then they suck on LAN.

With how insane Logix was online it's hard not to have nothing but the highest expectations of him on LAN.

robokun87 [#16]

Picture this for a second:

The Seoul spot is full of Americans meaning all the Korean fans have to support Americans for the home games.

The Shanghai spot is full of Koreans meaning all the Chinese fans have to support Koreans for the home games.

Does that not sound fucking ridiculous to you?

Whatever way you look at it this is a bad move, forge that is very vaguely happens in "real sports" because it never has to this scale, this is about common sense and expecting British people to support a full Korean line up lacks any common sense.

Picture this for a second: The Seoul spot is full of Americans meaning all the Korean fans have to support Americans for the home games.

Sure it sounds ridiculous because South Korea has by far the most talent out of any country so it would be the most retarded move in the world for them to not have a South Korean line-up.

The Shanghai spot is full of Koreans meaning all the Chinese fans have to support Koreans for the home games.

Again, China has a large professional scene and a ton of talent. You're comparing two countries with solid scenes to the UK.

This is about common sense and expecting British people to support a full Korean line up lacks any common sense.

Im from England and would much rather support the current London Spitfire line-up than any UK line-up. Im not going to support players just because we're born in the same country, being born in the same country doesn't mean you relate to the players in anyway.

LDN 4-0 FLA

If this match is 10pm on thurs the 11th, why is it a day behind the other matches on the countdown>?

This is probably going to be a massacre. The Mayhem were very disappointing in the pre-season, and with only the six players they don't really have any flexibility. You're going to see the same thing every week, and I just don't think they have the individual strength to overcome that. They should be easy to plan against. And then the Spitfire are just packed with great players that easily match or exceed their counterparts on the Mayhem. They had a little bit of growing pains, but they should have ironed that out by now. LDN 4-0 FLA.

Yes it would be cool to see logix vs Birdring/profit but i think LDN would win 4-0 but if logix plays as well as he does on the ladder he maybe could contest with the birdring and profit but i see that to be unlikely

wtf i thought pixelfish said he got picked up by mayhem
ive been lied to

semmler with hex that sounds already pretty good :D

u can kinda realise that semmler has mayb 10 - 50 hours in overwatch.
calling the payload a truck and calling ult charge energy :D
but he sure knows how to hype the crowd

London maybe not looking so good or ????

wait did c9 just c9...

What just happened???

London tier 3 confirmed?

Time to watch my boys Florida McDonald's own some Koreans.

Rooky [#17]

4-0verwatch inbound. London have a better player in every position also I don't mind London having an all Korean roster as it's more fun to watch than an eu team getting rolled every week

not anymore

Rooky [#17]

4-0verwatch inbound. London have a better player in every position also I don't mind London having an all Korean roster as it's more fun to watch than an eu team getting rolled every week

kek

what is happening?

Profit is such a god. Wow

if semmler learns to game basics and stops unnecessary hype stuff he could actually be pretty good
sadly thats what got him hated in cs aswell so much screaming but not much understanding of the game

robokun87 [#16]

Picture this for a second:

The Seoul spot is full of Americans meaning all the Korean fans have to support Americans for the home games.

The Shanghai spot is full of Koreans meaning all the Chinese fans have to support Koreans for the home games.

Does that not sound fucking ridiculous to you?

Whatever way you look at it this is a bad move, forge that is very vaguely happens in "real sports" because it never has to this scale, this is about common sense and expecting British people to support a full Korean line up lacks any common sense.

would you rather your team was made up of the not OWL worthy players from UK? except boombox and kruise...

trashplayer [#38]

if semmler learns to game basics and stops unnecessary hype stuff he could actually be pretty good
sadly thats what got him hated in cs aswell so much screaming but not much understanding of the game

he is a good caster and that stuff but why he is there? He clearly doesnt know the basics of the game

caganisso [#40]

he is a good caster and that stuff but why he is there? He clearly doesnt know the basics of the game

Who are u guys talking about? The brown guy at the desk or the guy with hex?

trashplayer [#38]

if semmler learns to game basics and stops unnecessary hype stuff he could actually be pretty good
sadly thats what got him hated in cs aswell so much screaming but not much understanding of the game

Jason Kaplan and ZP died for this

Interesting that London is only fielding these 6. I wonder if that's a strategy to save players for the next game or give different looks or what? I mean, I think it's sort of obvious that these are their best 6 though.

trashplayer [#38]

if semmler learns to game basics and stops unnecessary hype stuff he could actually be pretty good
sadly thats what got him hated in cs aswell so much screaming but not much understanding of the game

yeah i agree, im sure he will get better has the season goes tho

Generation1 [#43]

Interesting that London is only fielding these 6. I wonder if that's a strategy to save players for the next game or give different looks or what? I mean, I think it's sort of obvious that these are their best 6 though.

Why bring in the big guns when the subs have it on lock down.

Generation1 [#43]

Interesting that London is only fielding these 6. I wonder if that's a strategy to save players for the next game or give different looks or what? I mean, I think it's sort of obvious that these are their best 6 though.

well lets be honest i dont think it matters what lineup they play they will still end top3 of this league.

I can’t remember the last time I saw a pro Numbani full hold. It seemed like most Defending teams just assumed they would lose the first fight and just carry on. London showed us how it’s done just then. Assuming that it didn’t happen yesterday, I missed most of the games because EU LUL.

majkel1893 [#28]

u can kinda realise that semmler has mayb 10 - 50 hours in overwatch.
calling the payload a truck and calling ult charge energy :D
but he sure knows how to hype the crowd

Does he?

He didn't hype me, was for sure better than what I expected, but damn he really has no idea what he's casting, hyping the wroong stuff, missing what's actually happening.

I knwo I sound like a hater of the guy, while I have nothing against him, except him taking the place of guys that would do his job way better under every aspect.

Positive aspect for the Mayhem? Logix didn't choke he actually had some amazing maps (and not just on Tracer!).

SoftWhisper [#41]

Who are u guys talking about? The brown guy at the desk or the guy with hex?

The one casting with Hex