I think DF should win comfortably but VAL could take a map possibly

Valiant is a very talented team, so once they spend more time practicing with each other (and solve communication issues) they have a very good chance of beating Fuel.

VAL 2-3 DAL

Even though they lost yesterday, the Fuel looked really good against another clearly top-tier team. The Valiant also looked good, but it was against what will probably be a bottom half team, so it's harder to judge just how good their potential is. They do have promise, but I'm going to go DAL 3-1 VAL.

Fuel win convincingly. 4-0

I have Fuel winning 3-2. Valiant are looking so good, and Fuel is looking out of form.

However I still think Fuel is the better team
But I would be thrilled to be proven wrong

as my doggie xQc would say, LA Valia... ResidentSleeper

imt/rogue vs envyus , 3-1 DF since they both lost to envyus before.

Agree with others here, while not favourites Valiant have a good shot of taking this imo

scent [#8]

imt/rogue vs envyus , 3-1 DF since they both lost to envyus before.

EnvyUs did lost to Rogue in the past too.

zakikool [#10]

EnvyUs did lost to Rogue in the past too.

And more than once, thous this isn't Rogue and EnvyUs anymore, while the Fuel are a straight upgrade of EnvyUs, the Valiant aren't an upgrade of Rogue, they are somehting different, better? Hard to say, but I see this as a close match.

All these guys thinking Dallas is better lul

DrElementary [#4]

Even though they lost yesterday, the Fuel looked really good against another clearly top-tier team. The Valiant also looked good, but it was against what will probably be a bottom half team, so it's harder to judge just how good their potential is. They do have promise, but I'm going to go DAL 3-1 VAL.

This. DF had some questionable player decisions considering the strenght of Seagull in Pharah oriented maps.

This could be close, but Dallas has the potential for insanely hard carry performances from Effect (and Taimou on a good day). I think they'll edge it 3-1, but could go either way

Terry [#3]

VAL 2-3 DAL

^^^

DAL at the end should win this one 3-2 or even 3-1 but the matches will be more close than we think

The return of SoOn will make this match interesting. Also I hope they put Agilities on the pine again and let silkthread play alongside SoOn because they looked like they much more dangerous DPS duo.

Also, where has Grim been? Is there a reason we haven't seen him play yet?

VAL has a great team, with a roster of Immortals and former Rogue roster, plus numlocked and Skilthread. But the DAL has a better team, with all the very good roles of Team EnVyUs players, along with xQc. I think it gives VAL 1-3 DAL

zakikool [#10]

EnvyUs did lost to Rogue in the past too.

I know but I'm refering to the current DF lineup w/ effect. They haven't lost to rogue before.

It’s felt like SoOn has been on a mission to reaffirm why he’s one of the best since some hype was lost while Rogue was struggling. I’ve been impressed with his play in the matches we have seen so far. I think he’ll be the X factor of this matchup

Honestly I just hope we get to see some hype Effect vs Soon Tracer fights :D

MLG stream not working for anybody else?

sensing im getting a little pissed, Overtime respawns for Hybrid/payload is terribly designed, and a huge advantage for the attacks (which is the opposite of what overtime should be) and everyone just seems to ignore that fact, calling "bad defence"

Okay, as much as I want VAL to win, Taimou is just popping the fuck off and it's amazing to watch.

worst map in the entire game

Always a bummer when a map is won or lost from a team getting off the cart / point accidentally rather than a real team fight

Tears [#25]

worst map in the entire game

I think Horizon Lunar Colony might be a little bit worse, but they are both terrible imo.

Hisoka [#5]

Fuel win convincingly. 4-0

Nope ;)

thaaad [#26]

Always a bummer when a map is won or lost from a team getting off the cart / point accidentally rather than a real team fight

True, but "C9" is integral part of the game, this is not an arena shooter, the teams that handle it better usually end up winning.

Hisoka [#27]

I think Horizon Lunar Colony might be a little bit worse, but they are both terrible imo.

anddd coming right up we have... Horizon Lunar Colony! we're in for a treat tonight bud

Damn Effect is not amused, expect him to pop off like crazy.

wentaway [#31]

Damn Effect is not amused, expect him to pop off like crazy.

i mean you called it I think LUL

What it is this game! Awesome!
( we are commenting it in the tournaments talk discord of over.gg: come and join! https://discord.gg/yU7crSy)

gotta love the 1999 Microsoft Fate keyboard

Tears [#32]

i mean you called it I think LUL

Haha such amazing dps and failing defenses (on both sides), the will to win of Effect (it's crazy) might be what makes the difference, I like Soon but in contrast he tends to tilt out of games.

KoleeKo [#34]

gotta love the 1999 Microsoft Fate keyboard

That's an expensive Leopold keyboard :o

Asterisk [#36]

That's an expensive Leopold keyboard :o

lol ik but the aesthetics are lets say.... retro

Can we just all appreciate Fate’s keyboard

Mercy...

dab

RIP DANK FUEL

3-0-1, ez win for my valiant boys. Dallas fuel? More like Dallas drool

this is tilting as a dallas fan who predicted a 3-1 win for them

Fuel seemed to have some serious communication issues on that Control map, Seagull (and somewhat the rest of them) looked so lost and confused

the first two maps were really close. fuel on koth look really weak thats really worrying for them if theyre struggling on an entire game mode.

Drex [#45]

the first two maps were really close. fuel on koth look really weak thats really worrying for them if theyre struggling on an entire game mode.

Yeah they looked awful on control vs dynasty too.

DF completely fell apart. What a huge disappointment.

As a Fuel fan this was very upsetting. Hope they can come back in their next match and win.

lmao

Fuel seem out of shape. Internally, something isn't working. The constant swapping initially seemed like an advantage but imo it seems to be hurting them. A lot of work ahead of them if they want to get out of the losing swamp.

CanidaeOK [#50]

Fuel seem out of shape. Internally, something isn't working. The constant swapping initially seemed like an advantage but imo it seems to be hurting them. A lot of work ahead of them if they want to get out of the losing swamp.

Poor coaching is all. You have a group of amazing players, with a history of success. This is how you prepare them for the launch of a league?

SoftWhisper [#51]

Poor coaching is all. You have a group of amazing players, with a history of success. This is how you prepare them for the launch of a league?

What inside information do you have to be able to sum it all up to poor coaching

Seagull is really bad

Wouldn't want to play Dallas next week. They aren't going to be screwing around. Sorry houston.

LMAO people really should stop overrating Dallas. This team is all about getting hard carried by Effect and maybe taimou. the rest are just a bunch of streamers. i know people will dislike my comment because this team has a huge fanbase due to the stream popularity sorry but you guys gotta accept reality..

penda [#52]

What inside information do you have to be able to sum it all up to poor coaching

Emails, phone calls, data, life feed, got it all baby girl. Thanks for asking. Now go be a good girl and go play with barbie and ken.

zakikool [#55]

LMAO people really should stop overrating Dallas. This team is all about getting hard carried by Effect and maybe taimou. the rest are just a bunch of streamers. i know people will dislike my comment because this team has a huge fanbase due to the stream popularity sorry but you guys gotta accept reality..

If you're talking about the big steamers xqc and seagull: they are new to this team.
and they joined what is by far the most successful western overwatch-team (envyus). so yeah, your comment is pretty much bs.

(i do also think that they rely too much on a carry-performance by effect tho)

Pro versus streamer, no match.
Nv lost level with this new adds.

scent [#8]

imt/rogue vs envyus , 3-1 DF since they both lost to envyus before.

lol

zakikool [#55]

LMAO people really should stop overrating Dallas. This team is all about getting hard carried by Effect and maybe taimou. the rest are just a bunch of streamers. i know people will dislike my comment because this team has a huge fanbase due to the stream popularity sorry but you guys gotta accept reality..

Imo they really should find a player who can flex into support and tank so they can utilize HarryHook as a dps.
It's kinda obvious that you're out of touch with the information, because Fuel has potentially one of the best aimers in Overwatch playing support.

Hitchcock [#57]

If you're talking about the big steamers xqc and seagull: they are new to this team.
and they joined what is by far the most successful western overwatch-team (envyus). so yeah, your comment is pretty much bs.

(i do also think that they rely too much on a carry-performance by effect tho)

To be completely true I guess that strictly speaking of wins the most successful western team was Rogue, but for sure the more stable and long term one was EnvyUS.

I agree with both of you thou, people tends to overrate them, OWL teams are a different beast than old NA contenders ones, or even older NA/EU tier 1-2 teams and yes I fear they put to much into the carry Effect, have to admit thou that the guy can be scary, just yesterday the team was too hard to carry Vs stronger opponents.

It sure seems like shotcalling is Dallas’ biggest issue. That and the way they seem to just give up. They clearly weren’t even trying on Numbani.

SoftWhisper [#56]

Emails, phone calls, data, life feed, got it all baby girl. Thanks for asking. Now go be a good girl and go play with barbie and ken.

I'm not even going to ask. You're not even a believable troll bud, you've been doing this bullshit for the past 6 months.