ez for Valiant based on the rumors about SF that have been going around

Triangleman [#1]

ez for Valiant based on the rumors about SF that have been going around

Enlighten me with rumors please

Triangleman [#1]

ez for Valiant based on the rumors about SF that have been going around

This is a month away I’m sure whatever you’ve been hearing won’t really be relevant when this match rolls around.

So hyped for that LA Valiant 4 DPS 2 Support comp
Kappa

Someone swap out super for sleepy, supers underage.

The rivalry

Triangleman [#1]

ez for Valiant based on the rumors about SF that have been going around

Would still be interesting to hear them hahah ^^

CamRa [#5]

Someone swap out super for sleepy, supers underage.

It's ok, I think they're just putting whoever in now until we know who's starting that day.

Maybe over.gg can reformat to allow more players to be listed at once?

Pixelfish [#8]

It's ok, I think they're just putting whoever in now until we know who's starting that day.

Maybe over.gg can reformat to allow more players to be listed at once?

the point of the players shown there is to show who is playing on each specific map. If you want to see the whole roster you can click on the name on the top of the page.

penda [#9]

the point of the players shown there is to show who is playing on each specific map. If you want to see the whole roster you can click on the name on the top of the page.

Correct, and the order that players show in by default is just the order than they appear in the roster. We'll adjust the roster when we know who's playing and adjust for each map.

MemelordBat [#2]

Enlighten me with rumors please

According to some the team has had problems with synergy, and I believe it was flame who said some members already hate each other. You're right, its hard to say this early but I still dont have high expectations for this squad.

Hard to call on this one but ill say LAV takes it.

I feel like these two teams are going to become massive rivals. Can't wait!

Pixelfish [#13]

I feel like these two teams are going to become massive rivals. Can't wait!

Yeah seems like LAV will be the team with the squad mentality...so we can say the plurals vs the singles

are these already the confirmed starting lineups ?

on paper i would say LA got the most scary lineup on paper from all the western teams & fuel

Should be easy win for VAL, Shock just looks like another NRG hype squad full of big names/social media presence that has clear weaknesses just on the basis of the players, without even going into the private stuff about scrim results and how the team's been gelling.

skweerty [#15]

are these already the confirmed starting lineups ?

Doubt it, no tanks on the listed VAL lineup.

In going to be that guy who roots for the underdog and goes crazy when he's right, so I'm going shock. U guys keepbsaying that the shock are just another of NRG's overhyped teams, but I think this roster of some great veterans can be much better then u guys think.

irishfire [#19]

In going to be that guy who roots for the underdog and goes crazy when he's right, so I'm going shock. U guys keepbsaying that the shock are just another of NRG's overhyped teams, but I think this roster of some great veterans can be much better then u guys think.

But Los Angeles is better. In every aspect.

LordOfHorns [#20]

But Los Angeles is better. In every aspect.

but how do we know that yet. just like the last NRG team, the core of the LA rostor is coming off a miserable contenders season 1, and picked up a retired tracer in Silkthread, but you already have Grim on tracer, Unkoe, a mainly zenn main, but didn't look as great as he once was in contenders for rouge and in apex. Last, their is Numlocked, who i have to say, was probably one of the most improved players, but kind of slowed down for envision towards the end on Season 1. The 2 Koreans for LA, Kariv and Fate, in my opinion, have just created more problems for them, especially in communication. Immortals lacked teamwork in Contenders s1 and only won team fights when Agilities had 5 kill blades. I think this was from Kariv and Fate because i noticed multiple times that Fate was diving in on Winston way to early and being killed and Kariv had poor timing on several of his trancendances. Immortals also looked much better with Hyped in the line up rather then Envy, but since they got rid of hyped, their flex tank spot looks shaky. Last but not least, we have Verbo. Don't get me wrong, he is a great shot caller and Lucio, but with Lucio coming out of the meta for Mercy, a hero he has rarely played, i'm a bit worried he won't preform well with her. That is just what i think Horns, tell me if u disagree with anything.

should be valiant just based off the support players.

irishfire [#21]

but how do we know that yet. just like the last NRG team, the core of the LA rostor is coming off a miserable contenders season 1, and picked up a retired tracer in Silkthread, but you already have Grim on tracer, Unkoe, a mainly zenn main, but didn't look as great as he once was in contenders for rouge and in apex. Last, their is Numlocked, who i have to say, was probably one of the most improved players, but kind of slowed down for envision towards the end on Season 1. The 2 Koreans for LA, Kariv and Fate, in my opinion, have just created more problems for them, especially in communication. Immortals lacked teamwork in Contenders s1 and only won team fights when Agilities had 5 kill blades. I think this was from Kariv and Fate because i noticed multiple times that Fate was diving in on Winston way to early and being killed and Kariv had poor timing on several of his trancendances. Immortals also looked much better with Hyped in the line up rather then Envy, but since they got rid of hyped, their flex tank spot looks shaky. Last but not least, we have Verbo. Don't get me wrong, he is a great shot caller and Lucio, but with Lucio coming out of the meta for Mercy, a hero he has rarely played, i'm a bit worried he won't preform well with her. That is just what i think Horns, tell me if u disagree with anything.

The simple reason that LAV is much more likely to be better is simply because of their almost endless flexibility capabilities (that's a mouthful) compared to the Shock.

Shock has phenomenal DPS players, but no true dedicated offtank player- Sinatraa has a fantastic Zarya, but also a great tracer- Danteh has an alright Zarya/Dva, and Babybay plays an alright Dva, but then you're losing those player's DPS prowess if you stick them to offtank duties. Obviously SF Shock has plans for how they're going to play, but when you compare it to Valiant, the LA boys can pretty much run any combination of heroes at a very high level, simply because they have more players spread out to different roles. In terms of how matches for Valiant will play out, the team will most likely be divvied up into hero pools like this:

Silkthread: Tracer
Grim: Soldier, McCree, Widow
Agilities: Genji, Pharah
SoOn: Junkrat, Reaper, Junkrat

Numlocked: Reinhardt, Winston, Orisa
Fate: Winston, Reinhardt
SPACE: DVa, Roadhog, Zarya
Envy: Zarya, DVa

Verbo: Lucio, Mercy, Moira
KariV: Zen, Ana, Mercy
Unkoe: Ana, Zen, Moira

Pixelfish [#23]

The simple reason that LAV is much more likely to be better is simply because of their almost endless flexibility capabilities (that's a mouthful) compared to the Shock.

Shock has phenomenal DPS players, but no true dedicated offtank player- Sinatraa has a fantastic Zarya, but also a great tracer- Danteh has an alright Zarya/Dva, and Babybay plays an alright Dva, but then you're losing those player's DPS prowess if you stick them to offtank duties. Obviously SF Shock has plans for how they're going to play, but when you compare it to Valiant, the LA boys can pretty much run any combination of heroes at a very high level, simply because they have more players spread out to different roles. In terms of how matches for Valiant will play out, the team will most likely be divvied up into hero pools like this:

Silkthread: Tracer
Grim: Soldier, McCree, Widow
Agilities: Genji, Pharah
SoOn: Junkrat, Reaper, Junkrat

Numlocked: Reinhardt, Winston, Orisa
Fate: Winston, Reinhardt
SPACE: DVa, Roadhog, Zarya
Envy: Zarya, DVa

Verbo: Lucio, Mercy, Moira
KariV: Zen, Ana, Mercy
Unkoe: Ana, Zen, Moira

Furthermore, Kariv and Fate speak good English, and just from watching streams, they are able to communicate with their teammates very well

LordOfHorns [#24]

Furthermore, Kariv and Fate speak good English, and just from watching streams, they are able to communicate with their teammates very well

i know until march, Babybay will be on flex duties, but when Sinnatra and Super come back, super can take over the flex duties. I may be wrong, but since we are talking preseason, doesn't this mean super and sinatra can play?

irishfire [#25]

i know until march, Babybay will be on flex duties, but when Sinnatra and Super come back, super can take over the flex duties. I may be wrong, but since we are talking preseason, doesn't this mean super and sinatra can play?

Nope. Preseason matches are still officials, which mean Sinatraa/Super won't be playing. At least I think- if I'm wrong with that, can someone correct me?

Pixelfish [#26]

Nope. Preseason matches are still officials, which mean Sinatraa/Super won't be playing. At least I think- if I'm wrong with that, can someone correct me?

so if we are just talking preseason and the games don't really matter, we can see how flexible both teams are. In my opinion, the plyers on the shock are just as flexible:

Sinnatra- tracer, zarya, genji
Super- winston, rien, hog, d.va, zarya, pharoah, lucio, ( he is the most flexible player in the world)
nevix- genji, soldier, rat
iddqd- mcree, tracer, widow, 76, junkrat, hanzo, sombra
Danteh- sombra, tracer, genji
Babybay- 76, genji, dva
nomy- rein, winston, hog, orisa
dhak- mercy and lucio
sleepy- mercy, zen, ana

I never got to say this Pix, but congrats on 2 stars

irishfire [#27]

so if we are just talking preseason and the games don't really matter, we can see how flexible both teams are. In my opinion, the plyers on the shock are just as flexible:

Sinnatra- tracer, zarya, genji
Super- winston, rien, hog, d.va, zarya, pharoah, lucio, ( he is the most flexible player in the world)
nevix- genji, soldier, rat
iddqd- mcree, tracer, widow, 76, junkrat, hanzo, sombra
Danteh- sombra, tracer, genji
Babybay- 76, genji, dva
nomy- rein, winston, hog, orisa
dhak- mercy and lucio
sleepy- mercy, zen, ana

I never got to say this Pix, but congrats on 2 stars

Nevix has also played every role under the sun if I remember correctly he has played both main and flex support as well as flex tank and dps over the course of the last 2 years

Pixelfish [#23]

The simple reason that LAV is much more likely to be better is simply because of their almost endless flexibility capabilities (that's a mouthful) compared to the Shock.

Shock has phenomenal DPS players, but no true dedicated offtank player- Sinatraa has a fantastic Zarya, but also a great tracer- Danteh has an alright Zarya/Dva, and Babybay plays an alright Dva, but then you're losing those player's DPS prowess if you stick them to offtank duties. Obviously SF Shock has plans for how they're going to play, but when you compare it to Valiant, the LA boys can pretty much run any combination of heroes at a very high level, simply because they have more players spread out to different roles. In terms of how matches for Valiant will play out, the team will most likely be divvied up into hero pools like this:

Silkthread: Tracer
Grim: Soldier, McCree, Widow
Agilities: Genji, Pharah
SoOn: Junkrat, Reaper, Junkrat

Numlocked: Reinhardt, Winston, Orisa
Fate: Winston, Reinhardt
SPACE: DVa, Roadhog, Zarya
Envy: Zarya, DVa

Verbo: Lucio, Mercy, Moira
KariV: Zen, Ana, Mercy
Unkoe: Ana, Zen, Moira

Did you forget SoOn is a tracer god aswell? Or just a typo for Junkrat twice.

One_Punch_Man [#22]

should be valiant just based off the support players.

I feel as if thats a comparison you cannot exactly make as Sans Frans main support (sleepy) hasn't played in a tournament in quite awhile just due to the teams he was on never playing in a tournament... I'm gonna say I am cautiously optimistic for how he preforms.

would be Shock(ed) if LA didn't stomp SF. just better players in every role imo, plus they should have greater team chemistry from IMT

HYYYyyyYYYYYyyyPPe!!

scent [#12]

Hard to call on this one but ill say LAV takes it.

What do you mean hard ? LAV going to wreck them

shock might actually win this if they have a good showing in the first game vs mayhem and can carry on momentum and will also be more warmed up then others

Shock plays twice?

NO AGILITIES OR SPACE ON THIS LINEUP
UNDERAGE

Agilities will be ready by S1 Regular Season. Space will be ready by S2

LordOfHorns [#35]

Shock plays twice?

Originaly the first match was between Florida and Phily , but since Phily aren't ready for the preseason , SF sub-in

This match between LAV and SFS was planned from the begining , i guess SFS will play twice this day ;)

https://www.over.gg/6733/philadelphia-fusion-to-miss-preseason

ManuxBaka [#37]

Originaly the first match was between Florida and Phily , but since Phily aren't ready for the preseason , SF sub-in

This match between LAV and SFS was planned from the begining , i guess SFS will play twice this day ;)

https://www.over.gg/6733/philadelphia-fusion-to-miss-preseason

I knew this I just didn't expect Shock to play twice in a row

Valiant 4-0 Shock

I can’t peedict this. I don’t know how strong either of these teams will be

SF looked good against Florida, but Mayhem choked so many last fights. Valiant 3-1

Whether IMT or LAV, the flag sorting will remain!

im so tired, is that really iddqd on junkrat?

Silkthread gettin carried hard. They are hurtin without agilities. Envy and Fate have showed up to play tho.

EDIT: of course I say this and then he gets a 4k and wins them the round in overtime. But that was the only thing he did basically the whole game.

Generation1 [#44]

Silkthread gettin carried hard. They are hurtin without agilities. Envy and Fate have showed up to play tho.

EDIT: of course I say this and then he gets a 4k and wins them the round in overtime. But that was the only thing he did basically the whole game.

just as silkthread saves the round

SILKTHREADDDD

LET'S GO VALIANT

lune [#45]

just as silkthread saves the round

He did save them the map, but let's be honest he was doing very bad on the final point on genji until the last fight

Pixelfish [#46]

SILKTHREADDDD

LET'S GO VALIANT

i hope we get a replay from his perspective

Great game so far!

Silkthread with the clutch in game 1 and Babybay and Danteh both popping off in game 2. Up the Valiant!

Sleepy is ridiculous

game 5 my boys

So many PogChamp moments in this game, definitely a great advertisement for OWL

let's goooooo

Good stuff, much better than Mayhem vs Shock and it was pretty close too. GJ Valiant.

Drex [#43]

im so tired, is that really iddqd on junkrat?

revenge on tlmo's team

fate and envy were a good tank duo

I actually wasn't expecting this level of production quality, no major hickups, just a few missed replays or bad uses of the third person camera, so far it's been pretty darn good with the birdseye view replay we just saw in the end, and the beautiful stage with player skins and stage animations.

Drex [#56]

fate and envy were a good tank duo

Fate is literally insane and I think Envy's english has probably improved and thats why we are seeing him do a lot better. I remember hearing he hadn't had the chance to learn much English.

Is there any VOD guys ?

Can't find the links on overwatchleague.com :/

ManuxBaka [#59]

Is there any VOD guys ?

Can't find the links on overwatchleague.com :/

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/videos

To the guy updating the ticker: Shock finished Horizon with 2:41 left

enzoy [#60]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/videos

Thanks a lot !

Anyone kept track of viewer counts?

Fluoride [#63]

Anyone kept track of viewer counts?

there was no viewer counter on mlg tv afaik

pelican0 [#47]

He did save them the map, but let's be honest he was doing very bad on the final point on genji until the last fight

he did say it was his first LAN and that he was really nervous/"shaking"

hugo [#50]

Sleepy is ridiculous

I KNOW RIGHT. its so sad no one knew who he was hes just been hyper unlucky with teams

Triangleman [#1]

ez for Valiant based on the rumors about SF that have been going around

After having already played a match against Mayhem right before, I'd say Shock did fine pushing this into a final 5th map. They were already burnt out, but pushed a fresh team to their limit. Good day for Shock overall.

Triangleman [#11]

According to some the team has had problems with synergy, and I believe it was flame who said some members already hate each other. You're right, its hard to say this early but I still dont have high expectations for this squad.

Wow, he was correct...

Not for the right team but still