NRG drop Seamoose, bring in Selfless' sephy

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Hopefully this is the kick in the nuts NRG has needed for a long time. Brad is the man for the job

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Agreed, my heart's been broken too many times so I'm tentative, but my candle of hope is still lit.

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Now the question is...does the TSM guy still work there? Might not make much of a factor but I really want this team to do great after the horrors we saw in every tournament they played in after Seagull stepped down.

I don't know what his plans are but I'd like to see him come back to NRG since he brings a willingness to do what the team needs and he's a pretty bad ass player/person in general.

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inb4 NRG curse lifted BlessRNG

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Wonder which Selfess players he will bring with him :thinking:

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Dafran said he quit professional overwatch, so maybe he's going to play on NRG PogChamp

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sinatra + iddqd? :thinking:

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It's doable, since they could run Genji/Tracer or Tracer/Soldier or Zarya/Tracer if they wanted to. That would leave them without a solid Pharah though.

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harbleu can play Pharah well enough.

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I've never been convinced with his Pharah play tbh, but if it's good enough to not get destroyed then power to them.

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Yup I believe he just needs some more practice. If he can land hooks consistently as Roadhog, he surely will be able to land direct hits, so, with more practice to movements and other things, he can be a pretty good Pharah.

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Not really sure if "well enough" is good enough to contend with tier 1 teams.

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Agreed, there are some pretty scary DPS players that would make him a liability for his team if he can't perform at a high enough level, specially considering how much resources Pharah tends to require to be effective.

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Selfless_Brad transforms into NRG_Brad, and I think he'll bring some great new energy cough to the team

PogChamp

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One less person in the NRG house... it's getting to be like a horror movie

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#9 Sinatraa has a good Pharah, he's just really aggressive and that does't fit the current playstyle of Pharah where you just sit at the top of the sky box and spam

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who will reddit target next

excited to see brad get a new job tho, he's great

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This is absolutely amazing. Seamoose looked unprofessional when calling out xQc on Twitter (you should expect more professionalism from a coach than a player) and sephy created an amazing team in Selfless and I'm so happy that he didn't exit the scene. If you didn't already know, Sephy has a reddit account (u/Selfless_Brad) and he is very active in the r/CompetitiveOverwatch sub-reddit, even going as far as to offer help to players with contract negotiations for the OWL, say what you will about Dafran, but I've heard nothing but amazing things about the new Coach for NRG. Let's hope this makes them competitive again!

OWL HYPE!

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Now who will get rid of the ants from the team house monkaS

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Nrg does something that makes sense, i did not see that coming.

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S E A M ResidentSleeper ResidentSleeper S E

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I would rather see Sinatraa + Seagull. Sinatraa can do what iddqd does but cleaner. I've seen his genji a few times on stream and its actually pretty sick. Not sure who has a better Zarya but both those dudes can flex to Zarya and would produce amazing results.

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Same here. I never understood the crazy hype surrounding IDDQD, I mean he's a really good player I'm sure but rarely did he perform in tournaments, just my opinion though.

As for Zarya, I'd say Sinatraa is the slayer kind; and I watched him get 3 gravs in 2 minutes on Hollywood 1st defense the other day, which still boggles my mind to this day, he'd burn his ally shield to stay max energy and pound. While Seagull is more the lifesaver kind, bubble always at the ready, pretty decent energy management and doesn't fucking die.
So I'm guessing, they could swap both depending on how they see the game going, which is always a good thing.

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Next press release they'll announce that they've moved away from overwatch and this whole thing has been in the name of a new season of Big Brother

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His math did wonders for selfless, hoping it can do the same for nrg

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NRG wouldve been better off just signing the whole Selfless roster when they were released

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Easy thing to say after they made a name for themselves..

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Let's speculate about who NRG might pick up for their new roster. i assume NRG are waiting until OWL for seagull to come back, so i'm not listing my picks for a DPS. I'm also convinced that Grego might join NRG soon, not just because he's been in practically, if not every, game they played as a sub since Ajax left, at least that was back when seamoose was coach, i've also seen iddqd pop into some for Grego's streams from time to time, and Grego and some of the NRG members had banter on twitter (here's an example: https://twitter.com/iddqdow/status/765358307477454849?lang=en), but Phaz and Dhak are also top tier lucio players, and JKW, i'll talk about him in a little bit. Next Neptuno looked really good in the OW world cup for team Spain, he got crucial picks on that Zen but i haven't seen him play Ana, and currently doesn't have a team, Hidan recently left team Iceblock and looks like a strong option (tweet where he left iceblock: https://twitter.com/HidanTF2/status/894925334541455360 ), and other free agents like B1am, Michael3D and Aythen look just as good. And lastly, a strong main tank player, well, i could name tons, Nomy, DCOP, Destro, Beasthalo, Stoop, Ryb, Kresnik or maybe even JKW, he formerly played main tank for Complexity, then got picked up buy Tempo Storm and played Lucio, he might even play that for NRG, him and Harbleu being on the same team a while ago means they have some synergy, which could be vital, but i know NRG is looking for a tank player who can micromanage and i don't know if any of the players i mentioned do, so i may be completely off. However, yet another option would be Koreans, with Brad's last team, Selfless, they trialed Carpe, which means Brad has experience with language barriers and breaking them, in that case some Korean free agents are Adam (the Korean tank player adam, formerly of LW blue, not c9 lucio adam), or Gamsu formerly of Conbox, or Kaiser who left C9 on August 3rd, for supports there's Levi and bamboo formerly of Rhinos Gaming Titan, or Starkey and Arcane formerly of LW red, just saying, anyway, this is all just speculation, having some fun, wanting to get my ideas out there, thanks for reading, feel free to respond and debate, NRG is a special case, most teams would have dropped their roster by now, but NRG bought as spot in OWL and are kind of stuck now, i'd love to see some of these free agents find a nice home in NRG and i'd love to see NRG succeed.

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Need some paragraphs, this is difficult to read.

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Since Kaiser left C9 on August 3rd, and C9 currently are looking for a tank player, how funny would it be if Numlocked joined them and C9 had success with that roster, that would be gold, imagine how mad NRG would be.

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That Grego-IDD tweet was in August 2016 my boi LUL.

And NRG were looking for a main tank that micromanages, I'm assuming that was Seamoose's call to have that kind of tanker on the team. Might be different with Sephy.
Sadly, Kaiser is on RunAway's Apex S5 squad so no go. However, Gamsu has a really solid reputation, could be a good addition. Ryb is on the new Italian org MKers, and I think you mean Desro (former Rise) unless we're not thinking of the same guy.

I'm sure there'll be a lot of tryouts going on with a new coach and what's on the line, exciting stuff. AGAIN.

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A Korean tank might be interesting but if they need one that shares shotcalling duties a fluent English speaker might be required. Of course, I don't know what Gamsu's level of proficiency in English is but I'm assuming that it may not be at that particular level.

I'd love the idea though. And maybe Carpe if Seagull doesn't come back?

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I meant Desro, i confused him with Destro who was flex on Cyclowns and then tryed out for Movistar Riders, but Desro is also a strong option, i didn't know that any information on Apex season 5 was released, that's cool, i'll have to go read up, and Grego still talks to the NRG guys on twitter, here's a more recent conversation: https://twitter.com/Grego_OW/status/893251356722552833 . that's form August 3rd this year, lol. Anyway, i guess we'll have to wait and see.

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considering the 12-man roster rule, my team would be

main tank: Numlocked (pls return) or korean imports
off tank: Harb + Xepher(if possible)
dps: IDDQD + Sinatraa + Seagull
support: Hidan + Grego, or more korean imports

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Numlocked isn't returning, and I'm not sure why you'd want him to. He was in no way the sole reason for the team not doing well but he unfortunately was still one of them.

As for Xepher it's possible but C9 bought the London, (UK, not Canada lol) OWL spot so I'm not convinced they'd let such a good off tank go.

That DPS trio could be a thing but that's a lot of talent to leave on the bench at any moment and I don't think a player of their caliber would want that position.

I'm looking forward to seeing what both C9 and NRG end up doing with their rosters.

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I'm not sure any team would go in with a 12 pack. Too many salaries, 12 people to house, double the number of egos to manage, add to that players that don't wanna warm the bench to play one game a semester.

A 7 or 8 man wouldn't be so bad if your core roster doesn't have much flexibility. But I don't see Numlocked coming back, with how it happened it doesn't seem likely. We haven't heard anything about Xepher in quite some time, and seeing Kaiser go back to SK, you never know what might happen with him, but they have Harb already on flex, not sure about doubling down on that.
I'm all for the Seagull comeback, but no way do these 3 players share 2 spots, I'd rather have Seagull Sinatraa but that's just me.
And about Grego, I never understood the situation he's in. I'm sure he tried out for teams but he didn't land a spot in almost a year now. It's weird to me.
But Sephy had DhaK as shot caller for a long time , and with what they accomplished I'm hoping they talk soon.

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Am I the only one who's a little skeptical about Sinatraa potentially joining NRG? Obviously he's an incredibly talented player, but I can only judge what's been said about him and that is he's one of the more toxic players within the pro community. My only concern is that if his personality is like dafran's, it could unsettle things within the team. I've watched harb's streams since October last year and every time he's queued into dafran he's been tilted by the way he acts. If Sinatraa acts the same way then surely it'll mess with the clearly high team spirit they have within the current group.

Obviously I could be completely wrong, but if they were looking for a Tracer to fill the current DPS role, I'd like them to look at Logix before anyone else, as he's a top 3 Tracer in the west (although it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Laser Kittenz sign him as they've just lost Munchkin). Either way, I hope that this is the the beginning where NRG build a roster to finally live up to their constant hype.

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spend some of your time watching harbs stream on sinatraas stream instead. he got himself a reputation a while back but now hes really chill. on top of that even when he was known for being toxic his teammates said he was the most chill guy on the team during scrims.

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Fair enough.

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I think you'd be incorrect in saying you can only judge him by what's been said about him. At the very least according to Selfless management he's come a long way and anecdotal evidence bears little weight in the grand scheme of things, specially if you're using another player as a stand-in for the one you're critiquing..

The main reason why I don't see him with NRG is IDDQD and my belief that Seagull may be coming back. The former isn't a game breaking Tracer but given the proper support he can get the job done.

In any case I think this weekend will only serve to put him on the spot so if he does well there's no doubt interest in him will only grow. He's obviously extremely young and has a lot of growing to do so hopefully he goes up from there.

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I don't think sinatraa has the same "burst-personality" as Dafran had. So I don't think that would be a problem. What I could see as a problem, is the reputation sinatraa has built for himself. I personally don't really like him, but can admit he is a great player and would probably increase any teams chance to win. I am just not gonna be watching NRG no more. I used to adore them, but if they bring in players with such a toxic attitude, then no thank you. That's a low-blow for me.