These latest bans that Blizzard are handing out

So recently there's been some seriously high profile players banned, the latest being xQc, getting 3 days banned for false reporting. I get that they're trying to make examples of people, but when the system you've got is a broken as it is, this is just gonna push people away. I don't think anyone at any level of the game seriously believes the reporting system works properly, and banning someone for 3 days for it, when there's incredibly toxic people, throwers, etc, who aren't streamers, that can just get away with it.

Blizzard need to fix the ranked system first, make sure it's a decent environment for everyone, THEN make the examples of the high profile people who misuse it. You need to have the people on your side first, otherwise you alienate even more people and make the problem worse.

I know Jeff says the reporting system is working and people need to use it, but frankly I've not seen any evidence see centre of it. All I've seen is a few streamers get banned for very borderline offenses, while every session I play I get at least one game with someone screaming abuse down their mic.

Also, they banned xQc mid game, ruining the game for his teammates at the time. That's not really going to encourage people to use the report system if there's a chance you'll end up 5v6 because of it.

They need to implement the in-game feedback that they've been talking about for months. So when you log in, if someone you've reported has been suspended/banned, a notification pops up letting you know. Slowly but surely people would begin to believe their reports are having an impact

wait wth?? Can anyone provide more in depth detailing of high profile bans? I just want to get the whole picture.

I'm actually extremely disappointed with Blizzard for this. I don't even watch xQc's stream

I'm disappointed with Blizzard. The only reason people treat the reporting system as a joke is because it is one. Maybe if they spent less time browsing r/overwatch and more time dealing with legitimate reports concerning throwers, cheaters and one tricks streamers wouldn't take the piss and send reports to entertain their viewers . Instead of punishing those who are actually ruining the competitive experience (throwers, cheaters and one tricks) , Blizzard is punishing a high profile player to make it look as if they are doing something.To add insult to injury xQc was banned for 72 hours, whilst most throwers/cheaters/one tricks avoid bans completely or get only 24 hour bans. So apparently reporting people for throwing is a worse crime than throwing itself? Also they should not ban players mid-match, as while the player may deserve it, their 5 teammates don't deserve the inevitable loss.

XQc got banned? I didn’t even know. What happened?

I have seen him multiple times reporting mercy or junkrat players for "cheating". This is just a misuse of the reporting function. I am glad that Blizzard took action against this bullshit of XQC.
I really don't know what XQC is thinking when he does something like that. A OWL-player can't afford a ban just for the lulz.

i mean the ban was pretty deserved.

Isn't this xQc in the OWL? but hey he's popular right he can do what the hell he wants.

How can one say the system doesn't work when it banned someone for abusing it? how can one say toxic people don't get banned unless you have them all on your list and can verify that? how does one know thousands of people ain't getting banned on a monthly basis?

It was the same issue with wow, people going on forums saying the system isn't working just because Blizzard aren't transparent in who they ban, when they ban and why they ban them, they keep that shit secret yet secret doesn't mean it isn't working.

I highly doubt they banned this immature prick because he's a streamer considering he's in the OWL and has a good fan base of 12 year olds behind him, he abused the system and got punished for it and to me it's incredibly simple.

I know Jeff says the reporting system is working and people need to use it, but frankly I've not seen any evidence see centre of it. All I've seen is a few streamers get banned for very borderline offenses, while every session I play I get at least one game with someone screaming abuse down their mic.>

That's the problem as I said above with Blizzard not not detailing every ban etc but they never have and never will, just because there isn't any evidence it works doesn't mean nobody gets banned, I've been banned playing wow for "toxic banter" with people obviously come about from reports, it works.

If enough people report that guy screaming abuse down the mic he will get banned as well, how do you know enough reported him, how do you know he didn't get banned? that's the problem, unless we see results we assume nothing happens.

Imho if he was spamming report as meme he deservea it! I like how Blizzard is going hard...now he has to do it with all rank and not only big ones

Let me start by saying that some kind of punishment is completely warranted in this case. The way he's been reporting isn't fine and should be addressed. I too turn off his stream when he goes too far sometimes, but this isn't the way to rid the community of toxicity. You think the guy jumps on the grind every morning waiting to be toxic to random people ?

The irony in this is, 30 or so minutes prior to his ban, his computer crashed for like 3 minutes, came back to his game, WON IT, and STILL lost 50 SR. Also, as he said, he's been stream sniped (which is fine on its own) by a guy (Gabe2004) who'd throw when on his team constantly, and tryhard (7) when against him, and it took 2 months before he got banned.
Reddit makes one post, and he gets banned within the day.

Maybe before laying down the bans, Blizzard needs to look into its ranked system. Matchmaking in higher ranks has been a joke for what, 4 seasons now ? xQc got put in (less than a 4 minute queue at that iirc) with a BRONZE and a bunch of plats after the last patch hit. A fucking bronze. And to whoever says 'Oh but that happens every time a patch hits, MM is just bugged'. That is not OK! Has been going for months.

And the biggest joke of all, THEY BANNED HIM MID-GAME. I could name you, off the top of my head, 5 or 6 people involved in OWL (plus big name streamers) who have been 'wrongfully using the report system'/toxic/throwing btw. The only one who got it was the guy with 8-9k viewers, that's a third of OW viewership on twitch at the time.
Sending a message is fine, great even, scapegoating isn't. People are free to dislike the person, but shouldn't act like they've never been bad teammates just because what they do isn't available to the public.

People are so quick to ride the ban one tricks train, but when it's Stevo or Fuey everyone starts crying about it. If you think this will affect how lower ranked people will behave, you're sadly mistaken. They're using the big name to hopefully make everyone behave imo, but that's wishful thinking to say the least.

even if ranked is broken (it is, and thats why i dont play it) if he deserved ban he should get banned and that should be the end of a story

I dont understand how people can defend someone and then saying that Blizzard is doing nothing....he deserves the ban and it will make comepitive better end of the story...(mid'-game ban not a good choices anyway)

I know this thread is about xqc basicly but the title and first post are a little more abstract so I'll bring up: Fuey500 a torb one trick streamer who has always tried to win, been positive in every game, and gotten decently high (pretty sure multiple times into top500) was banned for a day for "disruptive gameplay".

I understand one tricks are a hot topic but let the point be made that the guy is good enough to repeatedly get top 500 and I have never seen him be even slightly toxic on stream. I watch a few one trick streamers and find them incredibly fun and refreshing to watch because frankly I cant see the same thing anywhere and it really gives you an idea of what is possible when you ignore the meta and still try. I hope that one tricking does not become a bannable offense and maybe blizzard could make a ROLE SELECT function so that hey maybe you get a longer que but at least people can get a functional comp.

🤬🤬 fuck Blizzard!

There's a lot of salt in this thread.

On the subject of the bans, I'm firmly in the camp that believe that they were all deserved if you only look at the core of the game and what it's built around: Hero switching and team cooperation. So in that very narrow mindset no matter how positive you are...you are in fact exhibiting poor teamwork if you decide to stick on that off meta pick that isn't working in a predictably disadvantageous situation.

Also note that these guys didn't just get reported a few times to get their bans. It means that they more than likely refused to switch much more often than the times they did.

Now back to reality, the current system in OW doesn't do a good job to actually encourage that preferred play style where people are mostly flexible and the rule are so vague that it's difficult to really know what's allowed and what's frowned upon. Personally I'm one to believe that you should have at least one viable character in each role though you'll probably have more in the role of your favorite character.

My main issue with one tricks is twofold:

1. When they won;t swap if countered of if the environment is by design very difficult for them perform.
2. Because they only play one character they aren't able to perform at an appropriate level on anything else if their hero is picked or if they do end up swapping.

Oh, and they make the game very unfun right from the get go when you see someone who looks like they're just not gonna want to even try working with the team, instead forcing the rest to confirm with hoe they want to play.

I think the system needs to change so that the community in general can be incentivised to value flexibility and that one tricking more obviously becomes it's own deterrent on top of them being able to more clearly state the rules. Reporting in those cases would be much more cut and dry and you'd 100% know what you're getting yourself into.

I don't often agree with the Your Overwatch team because I think they like to spice their YT vids up with a degree of fluff and buzz words but this video I more or less support: Overwatch: Role Queue (I changed the title because their original one was too click bait for me)

the tl;dr they're suggesting is 4 different role queues:

1. Tank
2. Healer
3. DPS
4. Flex

Flex would allow the harder to categorize heroes like Torb, Sym, Sombra while the other queues would not. you'd end up with a guaranteed 1-1-1 and 3 flex players that you hope would be able to flex based on the teams need. The goal here is that it would be easier to justify reporting a Torb/Sym one trick for refusing to cooperate with the team since they picked the flex role.

What I like about this is that you have the foundation of a solid group and the understanding that the flex roles would be willing to adjust to fit the composition that the team wants to go with. It's not perfect but it's probably an improvement to what we have now.

About one tricks. The argument goes both ways. There are times when the one trick should switch only because of the perception of thier own team and on the other hand there are times when they actually should switch. But flexing is the whole teams job and if something isnt working then ANYONE unwilling to switch is equally guilty. If someone tells a torb to switch and the torb tells a zen to switch then they are equally guilty if neither switch. Ive played many games as a pharah one trick vs zen ana and the 3 hitscans and won easily. But its not the easy wins we sould look at. Its the close games and the fact of the matter is that nobody really knows for sure. So if you want to be able to tell someone when they should switch then you should accept them being able to tell you when to switch. Its only fair and basicly there is no perfect solution. Yes one tricks need to be able to flex or they are the only ones not able to flex and that is not right but when it comes down to one player telling another player when to switch that is just a bad idea. There are too many tilted people who would abuse it.

Also side note. When onetricking I was required to win 55% of my games to break even. When maining one hero and flexing i was able to actually rank up in mid masters with a losing record which is amazing. So one tricks should consider this if they want to rank up. And if you get a one trick on your team then at least know that they probably have to have a better win rate than if they flexed so if you work with it you should have an advantage.

I'm starting to be a heavy flex player at this point the hatred of ontricks is so bad i can only rank up when my team doesnt flame me. Honestly its really sad in a way because its very fun to counter hitscans with pharah. But if the team is giving up i have no choice but to switch. I love my teams that stick with it. Lol sometimes i just have to explain what happened last point like "i killed widow and soldier" and then keep calling out when i kill the hitscans. Once my team watches the killfeed and realises Im pooping on the enemy then I can usually stay pharah but if someone is having a bad day and grumpy and just mad because they are mad there is no reasoning with them.