Rogue is splitting up their OW roster so their players can pursue OWL opportunities.
https://twitter.com/GoingRogueGG/status/916904891469172737
Rogue is splitting up their OW roster so their players can pursue OWL opportunities.
https://twitter.com/GoingRogueGG/status/916904891469172737
I'm sure Soon and Unkoe will get picked up. Tracer and flex support players are super valuable.
AKM should get picked up but probably won't. Nico won't get picked up but it's hard to say if he should be. There are definitely better genjis and D.Vas out there.
Winz is hard to tell cause he kinda got carried. He might be really good and just never needed to show it.
Knoxxx is average and will definitely not get picked up.
Generation1 [#3]I'm sure Soon and Unkoe will get picked up. Tracer and flex support players are super valuable.
AKM should get picked up but probably won't. Nico won't get picked up but it's hard to say if he should be. There are definitely better genjis and D.Vas out there.
Winz is hard to tell cause he kinda got carried. He might be really good and just never needed to show it.
Knoxxx is average and will definitely not get picked up.
and with 3 good players and 3 subpar rogue totally diminated na in 2017 yea sounds about right....
not really, rogue players are one of the very best in their roles
Generation1 [#3]I'm sure Soon and Unkoe will get picked up. Tracer and flex support players are super valuable.
AKM should get picked up but probably won't. Nico won't get picked up but it's hard to say if he should be. There are definitely better genjis and D.Vas out there.
Winz is hard to tell cause he kinda got carried. He might be really good and just never needed to show it.
Knoxxx is average and will definitely not get picked up.
yes KnoxXx is average: https://youtu.be/YOt1zzvt79g?t=14m22s
the only problem with current rouge is that they don't really adapt to changes, their teamwork and mechanics are the reason why they completely dominated NA in the first half of 2017, doubt it could happen without everyone on the team contributing as much as they did.
Generation1 [#3]I'm sure Soon and Unkoe will get picked up. Tracer and flex support players are super valuable.
AKM should get picked up but probably won't. Nico won't get picked up but it's hard to say if he should be. There are definitely better genjis and D.Vas out there.
Winz is hard to tell cause he kinda got carried. He might be really good and just never needed to show it.
Knoxxx is average and will definitely not get picked up.
according to wolf soon and unkoe got picked up by immortals
I didn't look at this for a few days but I've come to back up the Knoxxx is average statement. He's average in that there can only be 12 starting winstons in OWL. Knoxxx has never been shown to play any other hero well. EVER.
All of the main Korean winston players are better. Fate, Mano, Miro, Fissure, and Kaiser and that's just the well known ones.
Other known better tanks: FCTFICTION, Cocco, Fragi, MESR (although he's retired)
And that's not counting the unproven ones like xQc, Muma, Numlocked, iremix etc.
and then there are the chinese ones and Meza and a whole bunch of others that have deeper pools and have proven to do more than get carried by Soon, Unkoe and AKM. I've heard knoxxx is really smart though. So maybe a really good backup.
Generation1 [#10]I didn't look at this for a few days but I've come to back up the Knoxxx is average statement. He's average in that there can only be 12 starting winstons in OWL. Knoxxx has never been shown to play any other hero well. EVER.
All of the main Korean winston players are better. Fate, Mano, Miro, Fissure, and Kaiser and that's just the well known ones.
Other known better tanks: FCTFICTION, Cocco, Fragi, MESR (although he's retired)
And that's not counting the unproven ones like xQc, Muma, Numlocked, iremix etc.
and then there are the chinese ones and Meza and a whole bunch of others that have deeper pools and have proven to do more than get carried by Soon, Unkoe and AKM. I've heard knoxxx is really smart though. So maybe a really good backup.
Knoxxx is better or at least on par with some winstons in overwatch league such as Cwoosh, Muma, Super, Numlocked and xQc. He never got "carried" by Soon Unkoe and AKM, during the triple dps meta he was the solo tank and still performed incredibly well. Also, knoxxx used to play lucio at the pro level on Rogue before the roster changes.
HipiMan444 [#11]Knoxxx is better or at least on par with some winstons in overwatch league such as Cwoosh, Muma, Super, Numlocked and xQc. He never got "carried" by Soon Unkoe and AKM, during the triple dps meta he was the solo tank and still performed incredibly well. Also, knoxxx used to play lucio at the pro level on Rogue before the roster changes.
no no
knoxx winz and nico are really bad and rogue was somehow able to be undefeated with 3 good players and 3 bad players for so long only because of luck
Generation1 [#10]I didn't look at this for a few days but I've come to back up the Knoxxx is average statement. He's average in that there can only be 12 starting winstons in OWL. Knoxxx has never been shown to play any other hero well. EVER.
All of the main Korean winston players are better. Fate, Mano, Miro, Fissure, and Kaiser and that's just the well known ones.
Other known better tanks: FCTFICTION, Cocco, Fragi, MESR (although he's retired)
And that's not counting the unproven ones like xQc, Muma, Numlocked, iremix etc.
and then there are the chinese ones and Meza and a whole bunch of others that have deeper pools and have proven to do more than get carried by Soon, Unkoe and AKM. I've heard knoxxx is really smart though. So maybe a really good backup.
KnOxXx is 1 of the best shotcalling lucios tbh and this is his main role.
I said I've heard he's really smart so I don't doubt his shot calling or lucio skills. He's just an average tank. That doesn't mean he's garbage and should be left out. He's top 20 in the world for sure but there are only 12 spots in OWL and I listed 9 alone who are flat out better AND he doesn't play Reinhardt...
Generation1 [#15]I said I've heard he's really smart so I don't doubt his shot calling or lucio skills. He's just an average tank. That doesn't mean he's garbage and should be left out. He's top 20 in the world for sure but there are only 12 spots in OWL and I listed 9 alone who are flat out better AND he doesn't play Reinhardt...
he is one of the very best winstons he is not average
Generation1 [#15]I said I've heard he's really smart so I don't doubt his shot calling or lucio skills. He's just an average tank. That doesn't mean he's garbage and should be left out. He's top 20 in the world for sure but there are only 12 spots in OWL and I listed 9 alone who are flat out better AND he doesn't play Reinhardt...
Keep in mind that Knoxxx most of the time played with 3 dps, and a zen, and when they do run D.va, AKM and Nico are sub par at least at early stages, lately Nico has been stepping it up. But my point is if you compare Knoxxx to Miro for example, Knoxxx has 3 dps and a zen while Miro has the best Ana in the world in his back pocket, at least before zen became a must pick, and one of the best off tanks by his side. Lunatic Hai allows Miro to make more flashy plays, is he bad/overrated? No, of course not, but keep in mind Knoxxx had much less resources to do his job, yet we almost never see him die early or overextend or get picked off, or have bad bubble placement, his engages are clean and he makes tons of room for his dps to do their jobs, it's just ignorant to assume Rouge were just carried by their dps, it's a team game, you simpily can't say a team that has been #1 in NA for months have 1/2 a team who is bad, that's just not how it works, are there better main tank players? Yeah, sure, but calling him subpar is just a mistake. I saw a game uploaded by Harbleu where MYKL, Babybay, and Nomy failed to take the first point, hell, even the first tick, on Volskya, even though the defense had no healers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29mOWEyI-lo&t=4s) Is it fair to call MYKL Babybay and Nomy bad? Well, MYKL maybe, statistically he's one of the worst Tracer players in the pro scene, but Babybay and Nomy are on an OWL team, it doesn't matter how good 2-3 members of your team are, if the rest can't do their jobs. Yeah, it's solo queue, but it still applys to the pro scene, a team with only 3 OWL worth members can't be dominant for months only through mechanical skill.
Generation1 [#15]I said I've heard he's really smart so I don't doubt his shot calling or lucio skills. He's just an average tank. That doesn't mean he's garbage and should be left out. He's top 20 in the world for sure but there are only 12 spots in OWL and I listed 9 alone who are flat out better AND he doesn't play Reinhardt...
To add onto my earlier post, Overwatch is a team game with many moving, complicated parts. Tanks create space for DPS players to be able to eliminate players, Healers heal those tanks so they can do their job, DPS and Tanks peal for Supports so they can do their jobs. If one of the role's isn't executed properly, the whole dynamic falls apart. This is what we see from teams like Eunited and Renegades, who's tank role isn't fulfilled properly, meaning players like Mangachu and Unfixed aren't comfortable on the Tank role, and therefore don't do their jobs, so the DPS don't have space to make plays, and Support's don't have as much pealing. (You could apply this to Rouge, however, they were playing from hotels and what not in Canada and they actually preformed well near the end of Contenders season 1). The reason AKM, Soon, and Nico are able to do their jobs is because Knoxxx does his job and makes space, the reason that they were so successful for months is because everyone did their job well, not because AKM and Soon have good aim, well that was a part, but it is much more complex then that.
More information on why Rogue wasn't able to get into OWL. It seems like they had all their ducks in a row but were denied by Blizz, possibly because the company failed to secure the 14th investor and chose to stay at 12 teams.
Article:
http://media.maxborgesagency.com/press/rogue-disbands-overwatch-team/
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