And his attitude makes it seem as though Boston isn't very good. Harsha has been known to be a bit harsh in the past, however.
This ain't harsh though this is straight up savagery so the roster must be THAT bad, not really sure why they put a guy like HuK in charge of making a roster when they spend $20m+ on the spot, isn't like he's a HUGE OW name and afaik he only worked on 1 or 2 events and played briefly right? a ton of responsibility for someone like him, I'd much rather put someone like internethulk in charge of picking a roster.
robokun87 [#2]This ain't harsh though this is straight up savagery so the roster must be THAT bad, not really sure why they put a guy like HuK in charge of making a roster when they spend $20m+ on the spot, isn't like he's a HUGE OW name and afaik he only worked on 1 or 2 events and played briefly right? a ton of responsibility for someone like him, I'd much rather put someone like internethulk in charge of picking a roster.
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CamRa [#4]#3 didn’t hulk form IDDQD or am I mistaken
he certainly was a part of it but i dont think he formed it
I'd pick a person that has over seven years of esport experience working as a pro, on events and as staff, with a lot of connections on top of that.
Whatever the roster is, I am willing to put my chips on the fact that they either got outbid and had to find replacements, or planned to pick up big chunks of rosters but they were too late or the players were picked up as full teams.
remiska [#5]he certainly was a part of it but i dont think he formed it
It was basically his team. I can't remember exactly how much say he had in it, but it was significant. It was also hulk's recommendation that brought in Mickie part way through Apex.
At least the hulk has played at the highest level for OW and was obviously thought of highly to be offered a coaching role for Rogue who at the time also operated at the highest level, sure HuK has good experience in SC2 or whatever but in OW he's done nothing compared to the hulk, be surprised if he has any notable contacts in OW and if we believe this Harsha fella then they obviously suck if his team is considered THIS bad.
remiska [#5]he certainly was a part of it but i dont think he formed it
AFAIK he formed it and led it until getting cut from the team.
Possibly, but I'll be surprised really, it ain't like he said they will finish last he's basically saying they are a tier or two behind the rest as in a massive gap, hope that ain't the case myself I definitely don't want to have a team in there getting stomped every week and neither does anyone else let alone the people pumping plus $20m into Boston.
He's either seen the roster and it's horrendously bad or he's talking shit to build up some hype because I'm sure lots of people are dying to see the roster after reading that, hopefully it's the latter.
zero [#15]You probably wanna wait untill they release the full roster instead of jumping on the words of a self-aclaimed overwatch expert.
You should be more wary of discrediting people that were insiders since OW started and created good content for ages.
robokun87 [#8]At least the hulk has played at the highest level for OW and was obviously thought of highly to be offered a coaching role for Rogue who at the time also operated at the highest level, sure HuK has good experience in SC2 or whatever but in OW he's done nothing compared to the hulk, be surprised if he has any notable contacts in OW and if we believe this Harsha fella then they obviously suck if his team is considered THIS bad.
Hulk did almost nothing at Rogue and was there just because he got laid off nV and was in Korea at the time, there's a reason he jumped into two different teams right after that in a matter of a month.
robokun87 [#18]I know Hulk did nothing as a coach but I mean the fact he was asked to go and help people like Rogue just tells me people think highly of him or I could be wrong, either way I still feel there's better people out there to build a 20 million dollar OW team than HuK but I hope he proves me wrong.
Give me an example of a person who has more experience and could build a better team.
What has Mourinho done besides being a translator ? Some people get shit done and whoever it matters to feel it can work.
Never been a fan of Huk's, in fact I thought he was really really bad on the desk (and he got roasted for it), but maybe behind the scenes he knows how to pull shit off behind the scene.
Mourinho worked under two very good and experienced managers at 3 or 4 big clubs in Europe and obviously learnt how to manage/coach before getting his chances in his homeland and doing well, he was also a coach before becoming a translator at youth level so he worked his way up before getting his chance.
What has HuK done in OW?
If we go by that logic he might as well play in the OWL himself because maybe, just maybe he's actually the best DPS in the world, if we say maybe this and maybe that we can come out with all sorts of crazy out of this world shit, fact of the matter remains, HuK has done fuck all in OW and this is a suicidal gamble by people who just spent $20m on, if reports are to be believed, a waste of money.
robokun87 [#22]Mourinho worked under two very good and experienced managers at 3 or 4 big clubs in Europe and obviously learnt how to manage/coach before getting his chances in his homeland and doing well, he was also a coach before becoming a translator at youth level so he worked his way up before getting his chance.
What has HuK done in OW?
If we go by that logic he might as well play in the OWL himself because maybe, just maybe he's actually the best DPS in the world, if we say maybe this and maybe that we can come out with all sorts of crazy out of this world shit, fact of the matter remains, HuK has done fuck all in OW and this is a suicidal gamble by people who just spent $20m on, if reports are to be believed, a waste of money.
Only big club he worked in before becoming a coach was Barcelona, and it was during their 5-6 year 'title drought', under Robson/Van Gaal. But that's not the point. My point was sometimes people put their trust in a person they think is qualified for the job, and it payed off for Porto. And that's one example among very many.
No one in Huk's spot has accomplished anything yet in OW, don't see why he's getting the garbage end of the stick.
You should read the Mourinho wikipedia mate the guy was more than a translator before getting a shot at management.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mourinho#Coaching_career
There's more than enough coaches in OW who have accomplished more than HuK has, which is nothing, at least a coach has had to do something inside the game such as look after players and most likely watch vod's/scout opposition and know what's going on, unless HuK has been heavily invested in OW since release and knows everything about anything I still can't see why he got handed the responsibility, then again this OWL is slowly turning into a case of who you know and not what you deserve so I guess he brown nosed the right folk.
Either way, let's wait and see what team Boston has before talking shit about the guy.
robokun87 [#24]You should read the Mourinho wikipedia mate the guy was more than a translator before getting a shot at management.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mourinho#Coaching_career
There's more than enough coaches in OW who have accomplished more than HuK has, which is nothing, at least a coach has had to do something inside the game such as look after players and most likely watch vod's/scout opposition and know what's going on, unless HuK has been heavily invested in OW since release and knows everything about anything I still can't see why he got handed the responsibility, then again this OWL is slowly turning into a case of who you know and not what you deserve so I guess he brown nosed the right folk.
Either way, let's wait and see what team Boston has before talking shit about the guy.
Matter of fact he was heavily invested in OW since the release and even before it.
In the beginning of OW HuK was pretty high rated, played scrims with pros at the time.
Was on the National Comittee for OWWC this year, played himself in 2016.
He has worked with Toronto Esports as a General Manager for quite a long time too.
Please get to know the people you are shitting on before you proceed to pull your pants down next time.
EDIT: Please give me your example of at least someone who has done more in Overwatch that is not already affiliated with a team. I am not even going to count the years of experience before OW.
Jadegarad [#17]Hulk did almost nothing at Rogue and was there just because he got laid off nV and was in Korea at the time, there's a reason he jumped into two different teams right after that in a matter of a month.
Hulk has to become a team roster creator ( talent scout), he is really good in finding talent ( coach is not is best roles imho, but with Liquid he did a great job)
poi98 [#26]Hulk has to become a team roster creator ( talent scout), he is really good in finding talent ( coach is not is best roles imho, but with Liquid he did a great job)
How did he do a great job with Liquid if he joined on June the 2nd and the roster disbanded on Sep 15th due to most of the players leaving for Quake/CS?
Sure they have the 2nd place in contenders S0 but no one knows how much of that is his doing. He did not pick up any talent at that time anyways besides subbing in Fury and we don't know whether it's his doing either.
Jadegarad [#25]Matter of fact he was heavily invested in OW since the release and even before it.
In the beginning of OW HuK was pretty high rated, played scrims with pros at the time.
Was on the National Comittee for OWWC this year, played himself in 2016.
He has worked with Toronto Esports as a General Manager for quite a long time too.
Please get to know the people you are shitting on before you proceed to pull your pants down next time.EDIT: Please give me your example of at least someone who has done more in Overwatch that is not already affiliated with a team. I am not even going to count the years of experience before OW.
High rated? don't mean shit son you're either a pro or you ain't, how many "high rated" players does OW have that ain't in top teams? scrims with pros? and that lead to what exactly, nothing.
OWWC? do I have to remind you who played for UK? a famous youtuber, who takes the OWWC seriously and who lists it as an achievement to pick a $20m team?
Where has HuK been since the start of OW? how many times have you heard him casting anything or doing analysis? why wasn't he at APEX or having anything to do with contenders or anything for the longest time, because he's that good?
I wasn't shitting on the guy I'm merely asking the question why him, you trying to tell me he is a better option than the hulk? according to the liquid wiki
"INTERNETHULK (or Hulk) was a key part and founder of the IDDQD core that was dominant in the early stages of Professional Overwatch. They were later signed to Team EnVyUs[1], and continued their dominating performance. He would go on to win APEX Season 1 and MLG Vegas 2016 with the team in late 2016."
That little paragraph is already enough in my opinion to tell me who I would rather have in charge of Boston, a guy who played scrims with "pros" and was part of a micky mouse competition in the OWWC who was GM of an e-sports team nobody gives a fuck about and was an analyst for about two events.
Who said the coach couldn't be affiliated with a team? trying to tell me some coach with a good team wouldn't jump at the chance to be in charge of the Boston roster?
robokun87 [#24]You should read the Mourinho wikipedia mate the guy was more than a translator before getting a shot at management.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mourinho#Coaching_career
There's more than enough coaches in OW who have accomplished more than HuK has, which is nothing, at least a coach has had to do something inside the game such as look after players and most likely watch vod's/scout opposition and know what's going on, unless HuK has been heavily invested in OW since release and knows everything about anything I still can't see why he got handed the responsibility, then again this OWL is slowly turning into a case of who you know and not what you deserve so I guess he brown nosed the right folk.
Either way, let's wait and see what team Boston has before talking shit about the guy.
He made the jump from translator to assistant coach though, you really think that's standard ?
And who said anything about Huk coaching the team ? His title is president of gaming, like does he have to be top 500 *5 on 3+ accounts for that too ?
Either way, let's wait and see what team Boston has before talking shit about the guy.
Really dude ? LuL
robokun87 [#28]High rated? don't mean shit son you're either a pro or you ain't, how many "high rated" players does OW have that ain't in top teams? scrims with pros? and that lead to what exactly, nothing.
OWWC? do I have to remind you who played for UK? a famous youtuber, who takes the OWWC seriously and who lists it as an achievement to pick a $20m team?
Where has HuK been since the start of OW? how many times have you heard him casting anything or doing analysis? why wasn't he at APEX or having anything to do with contenders or anything for the longest time, because he's that good?
I wasn't shitting on the guy I'm merely asking the question why him, you trying to tell me he is a better option than the hulk? according to the liquid wiki
"INTERNETHULK (or Hulk) was a key part and founder of the IDDQD core that was dominant in the early stages of Professional Overwatch. They were later signed to Team EnVyUs[1], and continued their dominating performance. He would go on to win APEX Season 1 and MLG Vegas 2016 with the team in late 2016."
That little paragraph is already enough in my opinion to tell me who I would rather have in charge of Boston, a guy who played scrims with "pros" and was part of a micky mouse competition in the OWWC who was GM of an e-sports team nobody gives a fuck about and was an analyst for about two events.
Who said the coach couldn't be affiliated with a team? trying to tell me some coach with a good team wouldn't jump at the chance to be in charge of the Boston roster?
Dude you were the one who whether he was invested in OW from the start or not. I answered your question. You are clearly impervious to reason and inable to have a conversation without being emotional and throwing fits.
I won't continue this conversation any longer if you are to keep being this way.
Also the conversation is pointless if you think a liquipedia paragraph is enough credentials for you to hand over your multi million dollar investement.
After leaving his job as a school coach, Mourinho looked for a path into professional management in his hometown and became youth team coach at Vitória de Setúbal in the early 1990s. Later he accepted the position of assistant manager at Estrela da Amadora,[20] then was a scout at Ovarense. Then, in 1992, an opportunity arose to work as a translator for a top foreign coach>
Mourinho did everything at the lowest level before impressing as a coach then getting hired to be the assistant before impressing before getting hired to be the manager, that is called working your way up and is standard.
Not even sure why we are talking about Mourinho in a HuK/Boston thread to be fair, HuK was analyst for OW then did nothihg for about half a year then suddenly gets the task of putting together a team for Boston, you think that's standard?
I never said anything about HuK coaching the team? I said picking the team and me saying he probably ain't the best for the job isn't shitting on him, me saying he's a shit player and analyst who never made it as a pro is shitting on him, me asking why him of all people is a question and nothing more, LUL.
Dude you were the one who whether he was invested in OW from the start or not. I answered your question>
What has HuK done this year? afaik everything he done was in 2016.
Also the conversation is pointless if you think a liquipedia paragraph is enough credentials for you to hand over your multi million dollar investement.>
Yet it's not pointless if you think scrimming with pros, playing for Canada in a micky mouse cup and being GM of an e-sports org nobody cares about is enough to hand your multi million dollar investment to right?
You'd end up with a pretty bad roster then LUL>
You said this about internethulk earlier in the thread, based on what? tell us all why hulk would pick a bad roster yet huk wouldn't, I fucking beg you to.
robokun87 [#31]After leaving his job as a school coach, Mourinho looked for a path into professional management in his hometown and became youth team coach at Vitória de Setúbal in the early 1990s. Later he accepted the position of assistant manager at Estrela da Amadora,[20] then was a scout at Ovarense. Then, in 1992, an opportunity arose to work as a translator for a top foreign coach>
Mourinho did everything at the lowest level before impressing as a coach then getting hired to be the assistant before impressing before getting hired to be the manager, that is called working your way up and is standard.
Not even sure why we are talking about Mourinho in a HuK/Boston thread to be fair, HuK was analyst for OW then did nothihg for about half a year then suddenly gets the task of putting together a team for Boston, you think that's standard?
I never said anything about HuK coaching the team? I said picking the team and me saying he probably ain't the best for the job isn't shitting on him, me saying he's a shit player and analyst who never made it as a pro is shitting on him, me asking why him of all people is a question and nothing more, LUL.
Dude you were the one who whether he was invested in OW from the start or not. I answered your question>
What has HuK done this year? afaik everything he done was in 2016.
Also the conversation is pointless if you think a liquipedia paragraph is enough credentials for you to hand over your multi million dollar investement.>
Yet it's not pointless if you think scrimming with pros, playing for Canada in a micky mouse cup and being GM of an e-sports org nobody cares about is enough to hand your multi million dollar investment to right?
You'd end up with a pretty bad roster then LUL>
You said this about internethulk earlier in the thread, based on what? tell us all why hulk would pick a bad roster yet huk wouldn't, I fucking beg you to.
HuK was analyst for OW then did nothihg for about half a year then suddenly gets the task of putting together a team for Boston, you think that's standard?
Yeah, working as a General Manager and doing things behind the scenes is meant to be fully public and a show off to people like you - with a track record of downvoted posts - so they can consider someone worthy or not.
me saying he's a shit player and analyst who never made it as a pro is shitting on him
Jesus christ you realize he was a pro in a different game before and wasn't trying to become one in Overwatch?
What has HuK done this year? afaik everything he done was in 2016.
I guess you're incapable of reading and comprehending text too, god damn it.
Also "picking" a roster and actually being able to sign them and doing all the business work is a different deal than anything you could do as a former coach or player.
hulk = played an important role in the forming of the now envyus roster which is considered by many one of the best teams in the world and won APEX just to name a few.
huk = played SC2, scrimmed with pros, gm for toronto e-sports and analyst for a few OW events over a year ago.
Sorry you are right, I would clearly pick huk over hulk, close the thread I'm sorry.
Also "picking" a roster and actually being able to sign them and doing all the business work is a different deal than anything you could do as a former coach or player.>
Indeed, yet you think huk is doing all that? I'm sure I read he was in charge of picking the talent I find it hard to believe he's doing all the business work involved in putting it all together but hey, who knows? you can sit there and talk all you want about how huk is the man for the job and I'll do the opposite, who is right and who is wrong?
Neither me nor you know shit, I can accept that yet you along with everyone else on this forum can't. You know nothing about his role in Boston and you can say hulk would put together a bad roster just as much as I can say the same about huk, you are full of as much shit as me, accept it.
Jadegarad [#34]You didn't even bother to research the person you were talking about why would I ever accept that i'm the same as you?
I'm no longer responding here
You know nothing about what HuK is doing in Boston or who he has signed, you know nothing about the team hulk would've put together yet still said it would be a "bad roster" so in other words, you don't know shit.
I didn't bother to research HuK no because he's done nothing in OW, there's nothing to research.
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