Paris Eternal to create academy team

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One.Point + hqrdest?)
Angry Titnas?

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Roazhon

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I dont know if Paris academy announce will change something but before there was a lot of chance to see hqrdest in italia with some korean phones Kappa.

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That would be great, the dude has always been a beast and I bet Pipou would love him here.

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Roazhon

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Yes they played more than one year in the same teams (gamers origin in 2017 and eagle gaming in 2018 with leaf in this two teams) so they know how work together but if this happen i hope caspere could find a new contenders team because he looks good in group stage and deserved play time !

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Agree, from a skill perspective I wouldn't rate Hqrdest way higer than Caspere.

From a personal point of view I'd say I'd prefer my home team (literally) to be as varied as possible, more EU than let's say IT or FR or whatever other nationality.

I strongly believe that mutlinational teams (not just in esports and sports), if properly handled are the best.

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Yeah I think every Academy team or any Org should (at least when we talk of EU) try to get some local players from their country, which keeps the identify of the team as certain country, but not be too stubborn with only getting (well in this case french players) local nationality players.

Just like Gigantti was full Finnish team for 2017 S1 (pre-OWL) and 2018 S1, but wasn't stubborn with staying full Finnish after Nil stopped playing after 2018 S1. I think it's still important to have some local (nationwide local, not NY wise local) players for most of the EU. I don't really know how good is talent pool outside Gigantti for Finland, but at least there's couple teams like Nyyrikki (Frost and Ice) and Trailblazers with some Finnish talent, but hard to say much, when not really seen their games that often (mostly Assembly, where Gigantti 3-0's everyone over the past few years).

But yeah I do prefer mixed rosters a lot (Philly fan for S1), but things like Paris having couple french players is kind of needed in my mind since there actually is quite a few good french players and I would be shocked, if their Academy wouldn't some french players too.

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Yep totally agree.

A local team should have at least a couple of players from its nation (if from the same area/state even better but that's more difficult), then go mixed roster.

This even more so for Academy teams which as the name implies should be considered academies, not B teams just to win the lower Tier league.

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Wouldnt be surprised if the Academy team is called Vitality.

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vitality is a separate org and aren't part of the paris backing team i thought

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And ? Toronto esport wasnt Boston org or team cc for shangai an owl can work with an other org for his academy ! And vitality is today the best french org (with lec slot and player in more than 10 different games at top eu or top world lvl).
So why not. But it could be also just Paris academy with no other org

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murasaki

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neither toronto esports or team cc are orgs lmao, they can't use the orgs name unless there was a partnership like with optic and houston, which there isnt in this case

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Both happy and sad.
Good to have another properly paid team in Contenders EU.
Bad this means one less spot in Contenders for non OWL orgs, and considering already like it is EU is the only region in which only 1 team from OD goes to the trials...

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Well it's hard to say Academy team in EU would bad thing, when there's only 3 or 4 non-Academy orgs in next Contenders Angry Titans, Team Gigantti and Samsumg Morning Stars are already in and Winstrike is in Trials. I don't know, what kind of support all of these teams offer for their players (money or benefits wise), but can't be worse than nothing.

I would say it's mostly good though, because of players getting paid. As long as there's a clear vision, what players they will sign for their Academy. Some french players is expected, but will be interesting to see, if they will sign other nationalities and is their primary goal sign only young (16-19) players or will they get some older ones too (22-25).

Of course it sucks for Open Division for now (since bottom 7 teams from S3 2018 were dropped to Trials) since most likely couple of OD teams would have probably won some of the previous Contenders teams in Trials. Just wish there would be more of those Open Division games streamed with casting, was pretty fun watching some of that last weekend. Might even tune in for next time Open Division Playoffs are on.

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Roazhon

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Only french born in Paris will play in Paris excelsior academy Kappa !
I think we will see some french but maybe not only. Last season french and swedish were the eu countries with the most contenders players. And if we look who are the french players not in owl (contenders or top OD) :

Dps :
hqrdest (ex one point)
flippy (lft/ ex eagle gaming)
tsuna (young and beautiful)
asking (Boston academy)
littleflamme (allplanned/OD 3rd)
noomi (hsl academy/OD)

Dps flex :
leaf (Samsung morning stars)
zykk (hsl esport)
tae (hsl esport)
hakan (sbbr/OD)
khegassi (allplanned/OD)

Off tank :
getamazed (one point)
tek36 (hsl esport)
hayko (lft)
ezel (sbbr/OD)
shuh (mirage/ NA OD champion)

Tank:
Superplouk (one point)
Kolsti (ex smc eu)
Chubz (who)
Teemo (sbbr/OD)
Valmaster (wind and rain/OD)

Flex sup:
Hidan (hsl esport)
Deylen (sbbr/OD)
Apollo11 (lft)
Demilk (animals legacy/OD)
Emmawinston (revoesport/OD)

Sup:
Dridro (Samsung morning stars)
Lilbow (giganti)
Fdgod (ex orgless and hungry)
Ascoft (hsl esport)
Izzy (ex smc eu)
Zensu (allplanned/OD)
Sstarboi (sbbr/OD)

So could be a french team there are a lot of good players and if you take 1 player in every role in this list you can build a top team. But if we look the Paris owl there are some player from Portugal finland Russia UK iceland and Poland so Paris could peak some one point players for example, who have no buyout (non org), like phatt scaler or hortic.

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Roazhon

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But Paris or not Paris it was the same for open division ! There is only one team because 12 -> 8 teams in contenders eu, the only change with Paris is 3 -> 2 slot for teams in trials.

Its a good news because now we have :
Samsung Morning Stars: gaming house and players paid
Angry Titans: studio take over for bootcamp and paid
Giganti : paid
British Hurricanes : paid
Paris : paid
One point : nothing (non org)

And in trials : winstrike and hsl are org

So at least next season a lot of contenders players will be paid and its a good news for t2 eu.
Morever Paris owl team have only eu players so this academy could be a step for EU players, whereas Hurricanes cant move to the spitfire (only korean).
And maybe next owl teams wil be some eu and with more academy, contenders eu will have more teams next years, i hope, we deserved more than 8 contenders slot. ...

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Samsung Morning Stars: gaming house and players paid

I know for sure they also have the team house, it's about 2/3 kms from the gaming house, but I believe they are about to provide apartments closer to the gaming house.

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Frozello

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Yeah 8 Contenders teams for EU is kind of little, but understandable by looking how few Academy or Orgs there is in currently in EU (There's plenty of players, but simply not enough Orgs/Academies). If we get something like 5 new EU teams into OWL for S3 then it would be expected to see EU Contenders to get expansion as well (into 2 x 8 teams Contenders or what ever the format would be for 2020).

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murasaki

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i wouldnt get ur hopes up for any more non owl orgs investing in EU or NA contenders anyway, best to take what you have

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1p core + pickups from orgless teams would be stacked