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Overwatch on consoles

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deetr

http://kotaku.com/looks-like-overwatch-is-coming-to-consoles-1740763937\

As of this morning, GameStop is taking pre-orders on the hero shooter for PS4, Xbox One, and PC, according to clerks at an NYC store I just spoke to.

They’re offering the game for $60, which feels off—this seems designed to be a free-to-play game—but who knows? It’s worth noting that Blizzard also sells the free-to-play PC game Heroes of the Storm in a $20 physical bundle, which comes with heroes and skins. So GameStop taking pre-orders for Overwatch doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not free-to-play.

It’s likely that GameStop just spoiled an announcement Blizzard planned to make at BlizzCon in Los Angeles tomorrow, so we’ll see if official news hits then. For more on Overwatch, check out our impressions of the beta.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/11/05/overwatch-ps4-xbox-one-pre-orders-available-at-gamestop

IGN has also contacted several GameStop locations in New York and received a similar response. Additionally, one store in Connecticut told us the game is currently titled "Overwatch: Origins Edition."

Thoughts? Will it turn out like console TF2?

Edit: Also just found this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/3rni6o/overwatch_for_consoles/

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console ports of primarily pc games have never worked out but eh

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I'd rather $60 over f2p where heroes cost money (dirty bomb). Such a scenario would be worse for comp play. That said, $60 is too high. $20 and some sort of item/micro transaction market would be best. $60 is quite a steep barrier to entry.

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I am seeing a tf2 on xbox debacle all over again

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deetr
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BLoodSire-AA- [#3]

I'd rather $60 over f2p where heroes cost money (dirty bomb). Such a scenario would be worse for comp play. That said, $60 is too high. $20 and some sort of item/micro transaction market would be best. $60 is quite a steep barrier to entry.

I disagree only because I have played quite a bit of Heroes of the Storm and I think Blizzard has actually done ok at making that game good for people who don't want to spend a lot of money. Recently it has kind of gone to shit with them not dropping the price of new heroes for a few months, but before that it was entirely possible to buy the heroes you want with just in game gold that you got from playing and leveling up. There are quite a few heroes on the weekly rotation of free heroes and there is a sale every week for buying a hero with real money. I've spent $10 total on Heroes and I have all the heroes I want (about half) even taking a few months off from playing. If I spent $60 I would easily have every hero in the game. As long as the Overwatch team made it plausible to get all the heroes for free I don't have a problem with having to play a few hundred hours to get them all. It also helps as a new player to keep you from being overwhelmed. I find it very hard to get into dota because never have any clue who I should pick, and being limited to ~10 options which change every week until I get the hang of the game is completely fine to me.

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Also, take a look at this!

These are just empty promotional boxes but they pretty much confirm the PS4 and XboxOne versions :s

(photo was taken in a gamestop btw)

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WARHURYEAH
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This is concerning, especially from a balance perspective, I'd really like to know if they plan to patch the games with the same changes across all formats or having PC and consoles separate.

Naturally can't assume anything until there is no real detail but this doesn't make me feel too optimistic at face value.

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BLoodSire-AA- [#3]

I'd rather $60 over f2p where heroes cost money (dirty bomb). Such a scenario would be worse for comp play. That said, $60 is too high. $20 and some sort of item/micro transaction market would be best. $60 is quite a steep barrier to entry.

this might be silly but i actually enjoyed doing missions and pubs to unlock classes in dirty bomb. i dont really the f2p system as long as its reasonable for dedicated players to get everything without paying

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deetr [#5]

I disagree only because I have played quite a bit of Heroes of the Storm and I think Blizzard has actually done ok at making that game good for people who don't want to spend a lot of money. Recently it has kind of gone to shit with them not dropping the price of new heroes for a few months, but before that it was entirely possible to buy the heroes you want with just in game gold that you got from playing and leveling up. There are quite a few heroes on the weekly rotation of free heroes and there is a sale every week for buying a hero with real money. I've spent $10 total on Heroes and I have all the heroes I want (about half) even taking a few months off from playing. If I spent $60 I would easily have every hero in the game. As long as the Overwatch team made it plausible to get all the heroes for free I don't have a problem with having to play a few hundred hours to get them all. It also helps as a new player to keep you from being overwhelmed. I find it very hard to get into dota because never have any clue who I should pick, and being limited to ~10 options which change every week until I get the hang of the game is completely fine to me.

While you might not mind putting in hundreds of hours to get a hero, think of it from a conpetitice side:

"They are killing us with Tanks someone go anti-tank."
"We need a reaper."
"Okay, James, go reaper."
"Sorry I haven't bought him yet."
"Anyone?"
"I'll get him in 20 more hours!"
"Great..."

Dirty Bomb had heroes mostly around 10 dollars each and some on free rotation. You can use ingame exp. to buy heroes, but it's around 25 hours or so to get 10 dollars worth. If someone wanted to play comp and have all the heroes at their disposal they would pay more than 60. If OW did something similiar, that would be out of hand.

At the very least, I hope it's one or the other. One way Evolve killed itself was by charging $60 for the game, then releasing additional heroes at 5 a piece and monsters at 10. That is truly awful.

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This guy bought a "Overwatch: Origins Edition"-code from Gamestop today for 40$.

As of right now it doesn't activate the game in your account though

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deetr [#5]

I disagree only because I have played quite a bit of Heroes of the Storm and I think Blizzard has actually done ok at making that game good for people who don't want to spend a lot of money. Recently it has kind of gone to shit with them not dropping the price of new heroes for a few months, but before that it was entirely possible to buy the heroes you want with just in game gold that you got from playing and leveling up. There are quite a few heroes on the weekly rotation of free heroes and there is a sale every week for buying a hero with real money. I've spent $10 total on Heroes and I have all the heroes I want (about half) even taking a few months off from playing. If I spent $60 I would easily have every hero in the game. As long as the Overwatch team made it plausible to get all the heroes for free I don't have a problem with having to play a few hundred hours to get them all. It also helps as a new player to keep you from being overwhelmed. I find it very hard to get into dota because never have any clue who I should pick, and being limited to ~10 options which change every week until I get the hang of the game is completely fine to me.

Has anyone actually considered how stupid it would be to charge for heroes with only 15 heros? They would only charge for new heros if anything and even thats a bit fucking retarded, see lol

Any hero in the free rotation will be seriously overplayed, unless of course they start dumping new heros on us, does anyone want that though?

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deetr
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/3rpc8d/just_a_little_look_into_the_origins_edition/

Contents of the Origin Edition:

"Origins Edition Includes:
21 Heroes + 5 skins:
Blackwatch Reyes (Reaper)
Strike-Commander Morrison (Soldier: 76)
Overgrown Bastion
Security Chief Pharah
Slipstream Tracer
Overwatch-themed content for several Blizzard Entertainment games:
Heroes of the Storm™ - Tracer Hero
World of Warcraft® - Baby Winston Pet
StarCraft® II Portraits
Hearthstone® Cardback
Diablo® III - Mercy Wings"

Looks like it is f2p then, a "collectors edition" that comes with a few heroes and some skins was what they did for hots too when it first came out. Also worth noting that when this version came out for hots anybody who wanted to play the game had already gotten in and if you had been playing since the beginning you probably would have had every hero. Another great side effect of this bundle (if they do it the hots way) is that you can buy keys for the heroes in the bundle for just a few dollars from key selling sites (eg G2A) instead of spending $10 in game or a bunch of in game currency.

Any hero in the free rotation will be seriously overplayed, unless of course they start dumping new heros on us, does anyone want that though?

Hots does balance changes every 6 weeks with a new hero every 3 weeks and it seem to work pretty well. Wouldn't be surprised if they kept a similar scheme for Overwatch. This only was official once the game was out of beta though so we might not see it for a bit while blizz works on changes to the heroes already in the game as well as core mechanical changes.

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kounter
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I really really really hope they dont take the db route and have all heroes from the beginning and you just pay for skins

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Dirty bomb was awesome during early beta when all the mercs were free and you just "paid" for keys (they gave everyone 99 keys in early beta). The competitive scene looked really strong during that period but it killed it for me when I would have to pay real money or grind 2k hours to get every Merc so I could be relevant in comp, I don't have that amount of time anymore to spend grinding, I have a few hours a night to play, maybe more on my days off.

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"Collector's Edition" Now up on Amazon for PC, Xbox and PS4

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81LIRdq9H6L._SL1500_.jpg?tag=teamfortresst-20

130$ .....

#16
jeffu
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http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/buy/ to make it more official.

#17
Doug
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They are charging R$ 160 for normal version and R$ 250 for the origin one in Brazil

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

PS.: a new game from companies that don't overcharge costs from R$ 99 to R$ 120 in here.

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