What do you mean a team like mkers has no identity, they have a roster with VERY experienced players like Ryb ( who dominated NA scene with c9 for months, over teams like faze and immortals, he also had the opportunity to play a whole season of apex ), Txao is a very talented zarya/tracer and he played for ROX mainly, danye is a good dps aswell and tek is a good offtank mainly shining on dva, nisa and bimbz are reliable supports, how can you say a team like this with a coaching staff behind is a team with no identity, you're actually clueless and the fact that you're describing those big names and the fact that they lost to players you never even quoted when going on about rants in the italian scene, makes me think you have actually no idea and you're biased, plus looking
back during takeover they had a worse roster than the one they have now ( but you're still supposed to improve during time than getting worse, even if you swap rosters )
and if you think getting fourth to a lan qualifier and 16th-9th to the first (with meta picks favoring your current roster) is anything close to something as an achievement i don't honestly know the validity of your opinon.
"i am not talking of their italian level but of a possible future in eu" Using your own words considering that italian players with little to none experience that you haven't even named beating players that milited in tier1 teams and korea, makes me think you in the first place are giving attenction to the wrong players "The problem of Italy is that they give importance to the wrong players ". About fighteR i actually have no idea why you're judging a player based on his performance in a mix against formed teams like sweden and australia, especially because he has a tank role (a role that looks good or bad almost exclusively on the performance of the team, easy to bash a losing team tank) and also you're judging a player based on his mentality in a competitive queue, some have a positive attitude towards it and others don't but the majority of players have a totally different mindset when it comes to playing in a team.