AVRL
Country: New Zealand
Registered: April 27, 2017
Last post: October 2, 2018 at 8:09 PM
Posts: 25

For the record I generally agree with the points made in the article and for the record Machi definitely isn't better than Fusion Uni but I think a lot of what I'm saying in is reference to how the system should be not what it is.

I think you're right in that currently there just are regions which are regarded as higher skilled than others. That's probably always going to be true, even when you look at international club football La Liga and Premier league are going to be much more competitive than regional leagues in Asia. The same is likely going to be true for Korea vs anywhere else for the foreseeable future.

The greater issue that I see for T2 players is that despite having reached what should be considered the highest non-owl level of competition you can play in (Contenders/T2) your path to the owl looks more like Contenders AU -> Contenders Pac -> Contenders NA -> OWL, instead of what it should be: Contenders -> OWL.

This where much like you I think the need for cross region play is important so that we can see how the Sydney Drop Bears fare vs Eagle Gaming or something. When I said more value needs to be added to Contenders that value comes in many forms. Blizzard themselves can inject more money/promotion. Beyond that viewership and value for sponsors is paramount for individual teams, a lot of which can increase with international events. That being said base viewership could also improve anyway exclusive of any other factors. People in general simply need to start paying more attention across the board for contenders globally.

Another thing that may or may not be commonly known is that despite 3rd party orgs being restricted in what they can run for tournaments, owl franchises aren't (at least not in the same way). Which is why you can have tournaments like Next organised by Netease (Shanghai Dragons). More owl franchises can and should be looking to do the same.

posted about 6 years ago

Part of the issue here is that going from one Contenders region to another is seen as progression whereas if the system worked in an ideal world, Contenders as a system would be equally rewarding across the board. An Oceanic player shouldn't have to feel like he has to go from Contenders to Contenders (T2 to T2) to make progression.

Part of the solution absolutely is to have interregional competition, but players like Patiphan shouldn't have to regions swap to get noticed. The other part of the solution is to make everyone's home region more valuable and for people to actually give enough of a shit to watch. If you had equal chance to make it to owl from the Pacific as you did in NA you wouldn't have to go play in NA Contenders. People have had plenty of opportunity to see Patiphan before the worldcup but statements saying "no one notices when Patiphan has a fantastic game against Machi Esports" is part of the problem. Everyone's had plenty of time to notice, no one bothered to notice.

posted about 6 years ago

One thing I would like to see in the future and I'm sure all the players would agree; would be to have a global contenders final where the top teams from all regions get invited to a lan final. Or at the very least have some type of multiregion showmatch in the vein of the Atlantic Showdown.

posted about 6 years ago

Feels anz man

posted about 6 years ago

They have a team in both Aus and Pac contenders

posted about 6 years ago

I wanna see some fisticuffs on lan

posted about 6 years ago

Still 2 Korean teams in Pacific Open Division for Ta1yo to play against though.

posted about 6 years ago

Any translations for Nate's Q&A?

posted about 6 years ago

Taiwan =/= SEA

posted about 7 years ago

It litetally isn't, OPC is 7 weeks long the same as most tier 2 leagues. I will be the first to admit there are some weak teams there but the same is true of any tier 2 league. There is always a big fish in each small pond and the exact attitude people like you have toward OPC is unjustified. No one is saying Flash Wolves are the best team in the world, everyone knows Korea and APEX are the best. What point are you and others like you trying to prove going into match threads to shit on the teams playing? Every tournament is going to have weak teams, EnvyUs just proved the same point Ardeont did but who gives a fuck at the end of the day. Every region has a right to be represented so let the teams be.

posted about 7 years ago

Let's not kid ourselves the competition in Contenders was pretty garbage.
You have EnvyUs who are clearly 1-1.5 tiers higher than Faze, Faze are then clearly a tier higher than envision/fnrgfe/rogue, those teams clearly higher than immortals/kungarna and let's not talk about renegades.
You need to compare the teams to the competition. Every team was garbage compared to EnvyUs, every team but EnvyUs was garbage compared to Faze.
So when you have a comp with only 8 teams and there are clearly defined skill gaps and tiers it's a pretty horrible tournament. Say if you had a league 15 teams that would be understandable but not here.

posted about 7 years ago

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Just because Ardeont won doesn't make the other teams weak. Using that logic you might as well say all Contenders teams are weak except for EnvyUs who are casually steam rolling their way through to an easy trophy just like Ardeont. You can praise Ardeont without undermining the efforts of everyone else.

posted about 7 years ago

Holyshit a Romanian player on an australian team

posted about 7 years ago

Especially when you consider that China only has 1 representative team in OWL S1 when there is still a reasonable wealth of talent across the rest of the country.

posted about 7 years ago

Thankfully Blank got a lot of matches this weekend to watch.

posted about 7 years ago

Blank's new roster debuts tonight. High expectations for this new team.

posted about 7 years ago

No official matches yet with the new roster, we'll be seeing it all for the first time vs M17.

posted about 7 years ago

Chinese Taipei are the favourites in group G anyway so it's very likely USA will have to take 2nd.

posted about 7 years ago

Both of those regions have their own professional league already.

posted about 7 years ago

Still wide unfortunately. Blank have been playing fulltime since April and they were already the best before they left Aus.

posted about 7 years ago

LOL pretty much lets go anz

posted about 7 years ago

It's a popular name

posted about 7 years ago

PogChamp Australian esports moving up

posted about 7 years ago

Monopoly club is definitely one of the best teams in AU right now

posted about 7 years ago

RIP Professional Asia coverage. NA and EU lan drought, meanwhile Asia has a 13 week lan :O

posted about 7 years ago