for questions to mods always go to discord, they will replay there quickly

takeover's a lot bigger but it depends on how you define german event, and it might be faster to ask questions like this on discord

you see the difference between being pro and playing the game or not?
its pretty big difference

he never stoped playing game and never said he would

i on the other hand like current flags, it shows where city is, simple

dont play comp

even if ranked is broken (it is, and thats why i dont play it) if he deserved ban he should get banned and that should be the end of a story

dont
first internet is not a doctor and neither are you
second its non of our business, if family wants to tell why he passed than they will if not we should not dig

it wasnt koreans that were top teams during apex season 1, it was rogue that they upset during apex 1

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/930861992797126656

envy winning with rogue during apex season 1
everyone was sure it was rogues tournament, by far best team in the world so sure of vistory they picked 2nd best team envy for opponent aaaand dva changes came and rogue lost

edit forgot about this season gc busans upsets by far

Blizzard listened to community and introduced award in memory of internethulk
It will be presented to the player that will be deem to have had the most positive impact on the community.

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/21194321

well i thin im the only one with Bangladesh flag so its also one of the rarest

lets just say there are better alternatives for probably every player on this team outside league
and being able to "definitely compete" is not good enough for a player in one of top 12 teams in the world which owl teams should be

biggest part of rogue :/
hope valiant is better team than their announcements

feelsbadman
towards the end of contenders they looked like one of the strongest teams

c9 exists ... as london i wont expect them to create other team for a while same goes for envyus and misfits, they might have different name but it is still the same company with same people

i woudexpect some organizations to come back for example faze

and what is happening in na? also nothing
its very misleading what you said as owl is global (so also eu) and outside of it and contenders there is nothing going on in neither eu nor na

it looks like at least esca is switching totally to pubg

more info: here:https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/7b9tdz/ksv_announces_launch_of_pubg_pro_team_centered/
(if you can read korean)http://m.sports.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=236&aid=0000164662&spi_ref=m_sports_twitter

EscA and Leetaejun are reportedly playing PUBG for KSV - company that owns Seoul spot
https://dotesports.com/pubg/ksv-pubg-team-esca-leetaejun-18435
but article is very unclear

"I'm happy to continue being a part of KSV," EscA said. "PUBG is a unique game that is growing quickly and I'm looking forward to making amazing moments with my future PUBG teammates as I did with Lunatic-Hai."

suggests esca is switching all together but the ending

KSV confirmed that both EscA and Leetaejun will attend the send-off event for the Seoul Dynasty team on Nov. 18 before they leave for the Overwatch League's preseason. The final roster of KSV PUBG will also be announced at that event.

suggests its only one time thing, for now we can just wait

You realize every team will still play against each other, right?

at least read thread, point 2 is all about the fact that you wont play against everyone for no apparent reason

you forgot you cant be negative on this forum
right now because im negative even when i just post links to stats it gets downvoted which is a joke

as chinese viewership numbers are totally wrong

i already explained why, it turns out even some chinese over.gg member said to divide chinese viewership by 10 (source over.gg discord)

this is with chinese viewers so ignore these numbers as chinese viewership numbers are totally wrong

they do what? collect your certificates?

well, and its back to normal (for me at least)

enigma will fix (he is the man)
just wait

agree
and comeon we have 12! teams stop over complicating things

yes but i pointed it all out in the post:

what is good is the fact that national streams had a lot of viewers which can be seen by overall twitch peak being higher by 80k viewers (321 960 and last year 231 994)

and this improvement comes from the presence of national streams and with pretty much same number of viewers on English stream i would say that interest in overwatch hasnt improved much from last year

london is clearly best team right now (or at least better than seoul) coz of gc busan

why would you expect viewership to be lower?

321 960 and last year 231 994
did we learn different math?

https://twitter.com/_Ravager/status/926685896874840065
https://twitter.com/_Ravager/status/926963232534925315
viewership charts for day 1 and 2

oh yea downvote evil statistics, they deserve it

not really, they were (on main stream) pretty much same as last year

I know that numbers looked impressive but
for example last years English stream had only 8k less viewers during peak (226 638 compared to 218 301)
what is good is the fact that national streams had a lot of viewers which can be seen by overall twitch peak being higher by 80k viewers (321 960 and last year 231 994)
Here stats for this year: https://esc.watch/tournaments/ow/overwatch-world-cup-2017
And here last year: https://esc.watch/tournaments/ow/overwatch-world-cup-2016

here also stats for all the qualifiers to owc (and my threads if anyone interested)
Santa Monica
https://esc.watch/tournaments/ow/overwatch-world-cup-2017-santa-monica-qualifier
(https://www.over.gg/5170/santa-monica-owc-qualifier-viewership-observing#42)
Katowice
https://www.over.gg/5052/katowice-owc-qualifier-viewership#12
https://esc.watch/tournaments/ow/overwatch-world-cup-2017-katowice-qualifier
Shanghai:
https://www.over.gg/4815/number-of-viewers-for-the-overwatch-world-cup-shanghai-qualifiers#3
https://esc.watch/tournaments/ow/overwatch-world-cup-2017-shanghai-qualifier
Sydney:
https://www.over.gg/4893/number-of-viewers-sydney-qualifier#2
https://esc.watch/tournaments/ow/overwatch-world-cup-2017-sydney-qualifier

2easy progengu

Considering the problems western players had with owl (specially frogue) korea looked much weaker than expected and if west focused more on this tournament some teams namely usa france sweden canada could have won with them
but korean players have shown many great individual plays so gg

I agree that valiant roster has very good players

So, its not finished (not even close) but im really tired and i already had some parts of it written so i decided to post it and hey its forum so i can post whatever i want ;)
i highly recommande checking these histories/artcles instead (specially lunatic hai one)
Lunatic-Hai https://www.over.gg/6173/kings-of-korean-overwatch-lunatic-hai#11
EnVyUs: https://www.over.gg/5964/maybe-something-interesting-about-envyus#14
Misfits: https://www.over.gg/5987/misfits-unfulfilled-expectations#1

Before contenders season 1 it was looking like north american fans dreams of having elite team have came true in the form of Immortals and with secured spot in Overwatch League it looked like a team with majority of NA players had real chance of making an impact on competitive scene. Everything changed after contenders with abysmal performance and overwatch league approaching fast future of this, once challenging likes of Rogue and EnVyUs, team is unsure

Immortals entered Overwatch, only just over a year ago when most of top teams and players were already signed, by signing well performing north american team Sodipop in september of 2016.

Sodipop was formed on june 15 by GrimReality, Jer, Hype and nomy, last 2 players were changing with more notable xorros joining them for few tournaments. Their roster was finalized by Hyped and Agilities by the end of july and haven’t changed until their signing for Immortals.

First tournament with the final iteration of the roster was BTS Overwatch Cup Week 2 in which they placed 4th after losing to Liquid and Cloud9. They would continue to place in the middle of ranks with the best placing before being picked up being 3rd in Alienware Monthly Melee for the month of August.

Their first tournament under north american organization was Overwatch Open where they finished at disappointing last place after going 0-4 in the maps in the group stage. With continuous weak results roster had to change. In october Chance replaced Jer and later moved to coaching n place of verbo.

With revamped roster immortals had a much better showing having multiple 2nd place finished throughout october and november finally grabbing a victory in december when they won Monthly melee and Basetrade tv cup, they would continue their good performanse in 2017 winning Overwatch winter premier and Carbon series but with the raise of other north american teams like selfless and Lg evil and Rogue dominating western scene Immortals results started to be much weaker.

After a string of close to last finishes nomy and Aythen were replaced by KariV, Fate and envy with Immortals rocking now 7 men roster. These changes allowed them to win season zero of Contenders and nearly end Rogues undefeated streak in the west in the nail biting 3:4 final of BEAT Invitational - Season 2.

With Immortals looking very strong they were expected to get into Contenders season 1 playoffs and even give a hard time envyus coming back from korea but they didn’t. North american team crumbled and finished 6th from last losing most of their games and with Organization having to create new name for their owl spot this would be the last showing under Immortals brand.

Immortals owns Los Angeles Valiant owl spot with the roster consisting of Agilities, GrimReality, silkthread, SoOn, Fate, numlocked, SPACE, envy, KariV, uNKOe and Verbo.

Who is this akm no name? with such performance owl teams might consider this rooki for next season
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but seriously this junkertown attack was legendary

you overrate koreans based off of apex, its very unfriendly tournament for western teams
very tiring physically and mentally

imho if they practiced more against koreans they would have chance in apex
they were winning all the scrims in korea

are you stupid?
1st i dont know where you took 2nd quote from
2nd "no one" HERE took insult personaly and what im talking about is not HERE
3rd thats my last answer to your retarded thread

but did they go to some random person in front of stadium with colours of other team and start insulting her?

little difference, people who "insult" each other in school know each other
i also insult my friends coz they know its not serious but you dont insult people you dont know for "banter" or "lolz"

unless youdo insult people you dont know on the street for "banter"

mate
idiots insult others
end of a story
where have you seen such "banter" in real sports?

"fans" dont go online posting random insults just to create "banter"

thats what trolls do, and thats why your post is retarded

over.gg has its memes but what you did is not it, and if you thought that your post is funny than sorry but youre stupid

There's a difference between banter and actually trying to start shit.

you did neither, what you did i post random insults for god knows what reason toi the forum
this is just retarded thread with no point

no one took insult personaly
the problem is this thread is useless and retarded

tell me whats the point of it?

ruin a multitude of comps

agree with this roster there is no comp they cant ruin even with so many coaches