South Korean VS western teams

It seems like both western and korean teams have plenty of individual mechanical skill, but the mental attitude towards the game is different. Specifically it seems like korean teams inherently see the game as one of team cooperation, while western teams approach it more as an individual game with team aspects. I would describe it as cats vs dogs.

Maybe my perspective is colored by the fact that i come from quake, but it seems like western attitude it carry oriented, while the korean teams correctly see it as a game of team cooperation.

This probably has a lot to do with a much more organized structure around teams themselves in SK. In the west teams are made by players who want to play with each other. In korea teams are made by managers who pick the best pieces for the team, disregarding who players want to play with almost completely.

Some time back I read a story about how lunatic hai was formed and it was people(Esca,Ryu etc) who had played together previously in other games coming together to form a team so the problem is not the organization structure.(Although they look a lot stronger with the addition of Whoru and Zunba). Then there are teams like Kongdoo Panthera who have said multiple times they play the 'carry game' trying to win based on individual skills. It is time the west lose the stereotype that Koreans are not 'mechanically skilled' and win based on team synergy alone. What the western teams lack is good competition and support structure like Reinforce,Monte and others have said so many time.
https://medium.com/@re1nforce/postbellum-hwaiting-a7e4ac45ff94#.k52d2bk1i
Reinforce focuses so much on the lack of competition in EU. Western teams need to have some stable rosters,sort out internal issues and play with the same synergy as the Korean teams do because the are not beating them with raw skill.

That's interesting information about the behind the scenes of the korean OW scene. I really know very little about that. Where did you find that btw? I am simply going off of what i see in tournament games.

The "there isn't enough competition" angle though i'm not buying. There have been solid decades of competition, including at high levels in the west at fps games. Many people who were involved in that are in overwatch today, and despite the recent dearth of european tournaments, there are plenty of competitions in the west that foster competition.

Support structure is definitely far better in SK. But to me what better support structure translates to is, the players do not call the shots, and play for an organization. As opposed to the players call almost all the shots and play for themselves and each other, and the organization just facilitates that.

https://www.akshonesports.com/2016/12/translated-interview-ryujehong-im-going-play-im-40-50
And IIRC kungdoo thing is from pre-match clips from Apex Season 1. Lots of korean translated stuff on r/Competitiveoverwatch/.
Reinforce says the only real competition they had was NiP(They usually only run triple tank) so there was a lack of dive teams to practice against. (I don't know why they didn't scrim against Eunited. Were they not good enough or not scriming due to recent organizational changes). Not many EU tournaments to really judge the scene there but it is probably not healthy :/

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https://www.akshonesports.com/2016/12/translated-interview-ryujehong-im-going-play-im-40-50
And IIRC kungdoo thing is from pre-match clips from Apex Season 1. Lots of korean translated stuff on r/Competitiveoverwatch/.
Reinforce says the only real competition they had was NiP(They usually only run triple tank) so there was a lack of dive teams to practice against. (I don't know why they didn't scrim against Eunited. Were they not good enough or not scriming due to recent organizational changes). Not many EU tournaments to really judge the scene there but it is probably not healthy :/

Eunited(previously Reunited) and Rogue were in Korea while Misfits were still in EU during APEX season 1 leaving NiP as the only other Tier 1 EU team for them to scrim which almost exclusively plays Triple tank. There's an interview from DH Winter where Zebbosai explained their situation at the time iirc(essentially that they'd roll any Tier 2 teams and they weren't getting a lot out of scrimming only against triple tank).